Author: Date: Subject:
Frank
2008-06-28 08:42:07
Re: Celebrate Our Freedoms
I want to make sure we retain these freedoms.
Who should I vote for this fall?
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Stormin Mormon
2008-06-28 10:34:52
Re: Celebrate Our Freedoms
George Washington for President.
On the left, your choices are a Muslim, and a socialist. Not really sure
about McSame.
--
Christopher A. Young
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www.lds.org
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"Frank" <frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet> wrote in message
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I want to make sure we retain these freedoms.
Who should I vote for this fall?
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HeyBub
2008-06-28 09:42:13
Re: Celebrate Our Freedoms
Stormin Mormon wrote:
> George Washington for President.
>
> On the left, your choices are a Muslim, and a socialist. Not really
> sure about McSame.
There are still five months to go. Obama, at the rate he's changing, may be
quite acceptable by then.
I loved his comments on gun control: He's for an individual right to bear
arms and he's for a community's right to regulate guns. But what happens
when they disagree? He's silent so far.
In law school, a required course is "Conflict of Laws," which deals with the
obvious case where one law says you MUST and another says you CAN'T. He
evidently flunked that class.
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Charlie Bress
2008-06-28 14:53:25
Re: Celebrate Our Freedoms
"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Stormin Mormon wrote:
>> George Washington for President.
>>
>> On the left, your choices are a Muslim, and a socialist. Not really
>> sure about McSame.
>
> There are still five months to go. Obama, at the rate he's changing, may
> be quite acceptable by then.
>
> I loved his comments on gun control: He's for an individual right to bear
> arms and he's for a community's right to regulate guns. But what happens
> when they disagree? He's silent so far.
>
> In law school, a required course is "Conflict of Laws," which deals with
> the obvious case where one law says you MUST and another says you CAN'T.
> He evidently flunked that class.
Is that really different from my right to own an automobile while the state
has the right to control who can drive it?
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Dave Bugg
2008-06-28 12:13:25
Re: Celebrate Our Freedoms
Charlie Bress wrote:
> "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:GfydnaDg-bog0PvVnZ2dnUVZ_oninZ2d@earthlink.com...
>> Stormin Mormon wrote:
>>> George Washington for President.
>>>
>>> On the left, your choices are a Muslim, and a socialist. Not really
>>> sure about McSame.
>>
>> There are still five months to go. Obama, at the rate he's changing,
>> may be quite acceptable by then.
>>
>> I loved his comments on gun control: He's for an individual right to
>> bear arms and he's for a community's right to regulate guns. But
>> what happens when they disagree? He's silent so far.
>>
>> In law school, a required course is "Conflict of Laws," which deals
>> with the obvious case where one law says you MUST and another says
>> you CAN'T. He evidently flunked that class.
> Is that really different from my right to own an automobile while the
> state has the right to control who can drive it?
The difference is that you don't have a Constitutional right to own a car.
Nor is their any Constitutional "right" to drive. Driving is considered a
privilege.
--
Dave www.davebbq.com
What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven before
you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan
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Author: Date: Subject:
Kurt Ullman
2008-06-28 16:32:55
Re: Celebrate Our Freedoms
In article <69d1f$48668d5a$12039@news.teranews.com>,
"Dave Bugg" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> The difference is that you don't have a Constitutional right to own a car.
> Nor is their any Constitutional "right" to drive. Driving is considered a
> privilege.
And you are driving on their roads. Ownership by a public entity still
means ownership.
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Jim Yanik
2008-06-28 21:55:36
Re: Celebrate Our Freedoms
"Dave Bugg" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:69d1f$48668d5a$12039@news.teranews.com:
> Charlie Bress wrote:
>> Is that really different from my right to own an automobile while the
>> state has the right to control who can drive it?
State controls WHERE you drive it.
You can drive a car on your own private properry without any state
intrusion.(I have,when I was 16,no DL)
At any age. You can own a car at any age.
>
> The difference is that you don't have a Constitutional right to own a
> car.
Uh,there's a basic right to own property.Cars are property.
there's no right you are entitled to one.
> Nor is their any Constitutional "right" to drive. Driving is
> considered a privilege.
>
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
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Douglas Johnson
2008-07-01 16:38:29
Re: Celebrate Our Freedoms
Jim Yanik <[email protected]> wrote:
>You can own a car at any age.
Nope. You need to be an adult (18) to own things. Especially things with
titles and deeds. -- Doug
Author: Date: Subject:
Jim Yanik
2008-07-02 01:30:18
Re: Celebrate Our Freedoms
Douglas Johnson <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Jim Yanik <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>You can own a car at any age.
>
> Nope. You need to be an adult (18) to own things. Especially things
> with titles and deeds. -- Doug
>
Bullcrap! *I* owned my own car at 16.
Young celebs have bought their own homes before 18.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
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h
2008-07-01 21:57:05
Re: Celebrate Our Freedoms
"Jim Yanik" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Douglas Johnson <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> Jim Yanik <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>You can own a car at any age.
>>
>> Nope. You need to be an adult (18) to own things. Especially things
>> with titles and deeds. -- Doug
>>
Not true. My neighbors were killed in a car crash and their 8 year old
daughter inherited everything. Her grandparents moved into the house to care
for her, but legally the house, cars, other property belongs to Jenny. The
mortgage is paid out of the trust in her name, and her grandparents are the
trustees. Now if she wanted to sell it prior to turning 18 she might have a
problem, but her name is the only one on the deed.
Author: Date: Subject:
Kurt Ullman
2008-07-02 07:56:11
Re: Celebrate Our Freedoms
In article <g4empn$ar$1@aioe.org>, "h" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Not true. My neighbors were killed in a car crash and their 8 year old
> daughter inherited everything. Her grandparents moved into the house to care
> for her, but legally the house, cars, other property belongs to Jenny. The
> mortgage is paid out of the trust in her name, and her grandparents are the
> trustees. Now if she wanted to sell it prior to turning 18 she might have a
> problem, but her name is the only one on the deed.
I'd be willing to bet that the stuff is owned by the Estate of the
parents or a trust in the kid's name until she turns 18. The deed
probably says the trust is the owner.
Author: Date: Subject:
h
2008-07-02 09:09:17
Re: Celebrate Our Freedoms
"Kurt Ullman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <g4empn$ar$1@aioe.org>, "h" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Not true. My neighbors were killed in a car crash and their 8 year old
>> daughter inherited everything. Her grandparents moved into the house to
>> care
>> for her, but legally the house, cars, other property belongs to Jenny.
>> The
>> mortgage is paid out of the trust in her name, and her grandparents are
>> the
>> trustees. Now if she wanted to sell it prior to turning 18 she might have
>> a
>> problem, but her name is the only one on the deed.
>
> I'd be willing to bet that the stuff is owned by the Estate of the
> parents or a trust in the kid's name until she turns 18. The deed
> probably says the trust is the owner.
I happen to know that's not true, because I witnessed some of the paperwork
when the notary recorded all the changes. We're in the boonies and I'm the
closest neighbor. The notary lives down the road and makes house calls.
Absolutely everything (property) is in Jenny's name alone, even the house.
Apparently you can own anything prior to turning 18, you just can't enter
into a legal contract (there are parental consent exceptions). So, Jenny
owns the house, but the trust is named on the mortgage, since she can't
assume that debt until she turns 18. Bottom line is that she has all of the
assets and none of the responsibility for those assets, at least for the
next 7 years.
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