High-Speed Connection Questions

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 John
 2008-07-19 14:11:35
 High-Speed Connection Questions
Verizon broadband is now available here, but the web site doesn't
answer whether it's possible to have broadband and dial-up
simultaneously on the same PC. I'd like to retain a cheap dial-up to
use as a back-up ISP connection.

Is this possible when there's only one phone jack in the room?

Also, is it a hassle to self-install the broadband modem and filters?
Thx.
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 Ralph Mowery
 2008-07-19 10:22:04
 Re: High-Speed Connection Questions
"John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Verizon broadband is now available here, but the web site doesn't
> answer whether it's possible to have broadband and dial-up
> simultaneously on the same PC. I'd like to retain a cheap dial-up to
> use as a back-up ISP connection.
>
> Is this possible when there's only one phone jack in the room?
>
> Also, is it a hassle to self-install the broadband modem and filters?
> Thx.

I don't know about Verizon, but some providers will have a local dial up
number you can use if the dsl or cable connection goes down. If not and
you want a seperate dialup connection there will not be a problem. If you
had two computers, you could probably use both at the same time on differant
providers.

The modem is no problem. It will have a telephone type cord you plug in and
another that will plug into the usb or eithernet port on your computer.

There are two ways to install the filters. The simplest is the ones that
are about 2 inches square and have about 6 inches of cable on them. They
will plug in between each phone and the phone line. The line going to the
modem will not have a filter in it.

The other way is to run a line from your computer modem to where the phone
line comes into the house, Then you install one filter in line that goes to
all the phones in the house.
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 Kurt Ullman
 2008-07-19 10:23:46
 Re: High-Speed Connection Questions
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (John)
wrote:

> Verizon broadband is now available here, but the web site doesn't
> answer whether it's possible to have broadband and dial-up
> simultaneously on the same PC. I'd like to retain a cheap dial-up to
> use as a back-up ISP connection.

Assuming you have a computer with a phone-line based modem there
shouldn't be any problem. If you can use broadband and still take voice
phone calls at the same time, there should be no problem from that
standpoint. By simultaneously I am assuming that you mean on the same
machine and not at the same time.
I'll leave it to the others as to whether it is possible for the
computer to get information from two different modems at the same time.
That would be the limiting factor, probably.


>
> Is this possible when there's only one phone jack in the room?

Yeah. You would have to unplug the telephone and plug in the phone
modem. It is usually a good idea to disconnect call irritating when
using the modem, although some areas may have ways around that.

>
> Also, is it a hassle to self-install the broadband modem and filters?
> Thx.
I did it once for DSL with no problems. I also set-up a wifi
connection at the same time. Whole operation took about 20 minutes or
so. First and only one, so you can judge your experience against mine.
(g)
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 Evan Platt
 2008-07-19 08:27:05
 Re: High-Speed Connection Questions
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:23:46 -0400, Kurt Ullman <[email protected]>
wrote:

>> Is this possible when there's only one phone jack in the room?
>
> Yeah. You would have to unplug the telephone and plug in the phone
>modem. It is usually a good idea to disconnect call irritating when
>using the modem, although some areas may have ways around that.

You really wouldn't - DSL requires a filter - one line going to the
DSL modem, another line going to the analog devices. So you could
leave them all hooked up at the same time.
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 Kurt Ullman
 2008-07-19 12:13:55
 Re: High-Speed Connection Questions
In article <48820787$0$29458$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
Evan Platt <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:23:46 -0400, Kurt Ullman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >> Is this possible when there's only one phone jack in the room?
> >
> > Yeah. You would have to unplug the telephone and plug in the phone
> >modem. It is usually a good idea to disconnect call irritating when
> >using the modem, although some areas may have ways around that.
>
> You really wouldn't - DSL requires a filter - one line going to the
> DSL modem, another line going to the analog devices. So you could
> leave them all hooked up at the same time.

I was talking using the phone modem and phone at the same time. I
answered one question and you answered the one he was probably asking
(g).
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 Frank
 2008-07-19 10:58:46
 Re: High-Speed Connection Questions
John wrote:
> Verizon broadband is now available here, but the web site doesn't
> answer whether it's possible to have broadband and dial-up
> simultaneously on the same PC. I'd like to retain a cheap dial-up to
> use as a back-up ISP connection.
>
> Is this possible when there's only one phone jack in the room?
>
> Also, is it a hassle to self-install the broadband modem and filters?
> Thx.

I do it with Comcast. I assume Verizon, like Comcast will set up modem
to first computer and either charge extra or you set up wireless network
yourself. I think Verizon makes you use their modems but with Comcast
you can buy your own. I understand Verizon may want to strip the copper
connections from your house - I would not allow this myself.
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 trader4@optonline.net
 2008-07-19 09:04:40
 Re: High-Speed Connection Questions
On Jul 19, 10:58 am, Frank <frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet> wrote:
> John wrote:
> > Verizon broadband is now available here, but the web site doesn't
> > answer whether it's possible to have broadband and dial-up
> > simultaneously on the same PC.  I'd like to retain a cheap dial-up to
> > use as a back-up ISP connection.  
>
> > Is this possible when there's only one phone jack in the room?
>
> > Also, is it a hassle to self-install the broadband modem and filters?
> > Thx.
>
> I do it with Comcast.  I assume Verizon, like Comcast will set up modem
> to first computer and either charge extra or you set up wireless network
> yourself.  I think Verizon makes you use their modems but with Comcast
> you can buy your own.  I understand Verizon may want to strip the copper
> connections from your house - I would not allow this myself.

It;s certainly possible to keep a modem connection available for
backup. But from a practical standpoint, it's just about useless.
Broadband is very reliable, way above dial up. And once you
experience the speed, you won't want to screw around with dial up at
all. If you have an account at some dial up provider for mail, etc,
you can almost always get access to that too, via broadband. Even
when traveling now, I never use dial up, every hotel I've been in the
last several years now has broadband.
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 Frank
 2008-07-19 09:29:20
 Re: High-Speed Connection Questions
On Jul 19, 12:04 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> On Jul 19, 10:58 am, Frank <frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > John wrote:
> > > Verizon broadband is now available here, but the web site doesn't
> > > answer whether it's possible to have broadband and dial-up
> > > simultaneously on the same PC.  I'd like to retain a cheap dial-up to
> > > use as a back-up ISP connection.  
>
> > > Is this possible when there's only one phone jack in the room?
>
> > > Also, is it a hassle to self-install the broadband modem and filters?
> > > Thx.
>
> > I do it with Comcast.  I assume Verizon, like Comcast will set up modem
> > to first computer and either charge extra or you set up wireless network
> > yourself.  I think Verizon makes you use their modems but with Comcast
> > you can buy your own.  I understand Verizon may want to strip the copper
> > connections from your house - I would not allow this myself.
>
> It;s certainly possible to keep a modem connection available for
> backup.   But from a practical standpoint, it's just about useless.
> Broadband is very reliable, way above dial up.   And once you
> experience the speed, you won't want to screw around with dial up at
> all.   If you have an account at some dial up provider for mail, etc,
> you can almost always get access to that too, via broadband.    Even
> when traveling now, I never use dial up, every hotel I've been in the
> last several years now has broadband.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You are right, of course. I kept dial up along with high speed for
6-7 months because I had paid isp for one year. I did this
deliberately because I wanted to keep old web pages on isp for
business consulting purposes while transitioning to new site. During
this whole period I probably spent less than an hour on dial up as
Comcast was down.
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 Edwin Pawlowski
 2008-07-19 12:40:43
 Re: High-Speed Connection Questions
"John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Verizon broadband is now available here, but the web site doesn't
> answer whether it's possible to have broadband and dial-up
> simultaneously on the same PC. I'd like to retain a cheap dial-up to
> use as a back-up ISP connection.
>
> Is this possible when there's only one phone jack in the room?
>
> Also, is it a hassle to self-install the broadband modem and filters?
> Thx.

Yes, you can have both, but you'll probably never use the dial up. I don't
know about Verizon, but with ATT you get both for the same price. If you
have DSL you can still use dial up.

As for the install, if you can plug in a cord you can do the install. The
phones in the house have to get plugged into a filter, then the filter into
the jack. You can use a splitter on the jack the computer is hooked up to
so both the phone and DSL are plugged in, and if you want, get a triple to
plug in the computer modem at the same time. I do that so I can fax from
the computer.

The computer must have a network card. Most all new ones do since the
majority will be used on either DSL or Cable broadband. . Once you make the
change, you'll never want to use dial up again.