How are new Aluminum Seamless gutters attached?

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 Tube Audio
 2008-07-13 21:59:09
 How are new Aluminum Seamless gutters attached?
How are new Aluminum Seamless gutters attached?



Does the nail go vertically through the top piece of the gutter that sits
under the paper and shingles? Or does the nail go horizontally through the
inside gutter into the rafter. Or can they attach either way?



I am getting a reroof, old roof torn off and new roof put on, a ranch style
home 4/12 pitch comp shingles. The old gutters that are still up have the
nails going horizontally through the inside of the gutter into the rafters.



The reason I ask, I would like to paint the eaves before they attach the
gutters. So was thinking they tear off the roof and gutters put on the new
roof and then I paint and then they come back out and install the gutters.



The other option is I remove the gutters myself and paint the eaves and the
areas where the downspouts go before they start the roof. Let them install
the new roof and gutters and then I finish painting the rest of the home.



I am getting the gutters that are already painted and I don't want to get
paint on the new gutters and downspouts.



Thanks
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 mm
 2008-07-14 01:18:06
 Re: How are new Aluminum Seamless gutters attached?
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:59:09 -0700, "Tube Audio"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>How are new Aluminum Seamless gutters attached?
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>Does the nail go vertically through the top piece of the gutter that sits
>under the paper and shingles? Or does the nail go horizontally through the
>inside gutter into the rafter.

I think that's what I have and the gutter spikes are horizontal.

> Or can they attach either way?
>
>
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>I am getting a reroof, old roof torn off and new roof put on, a ranch style
>home 4/12 pitch comp shingles. The old gutters that are still up have the
>nails going horizontally through the inside of the gutter into the rafters.
>
I had a new roof put on and they didnt' touch my gutters. But the
spikes were loose after 22 years and I replaced them with screws.
>
>The reason I ask, I would like to paint the eaves before they attach the
>gutters. So was thinking they tear off the roof and gutters put on the new
>roof and then I paint and then they come back out and install the gutters.
>
Better be ready to go. Normally a reroof takes about a day for a
medium sized house. So they start installing the moment they['re done
removing, and maybe the new gutters go first. You'd have to ask them.

And you don't want to be in their way when they're throwing the roof
off the roof. Or at least they may not want you to be.
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>The other option is I remove the gutters myself and paint the eaves and the
>areas where the downspouts go before they start the roof. Let them install
>the new roof and gutters and then I finish painting the rest of the home.
>
Then you wouldn't have to rush. You can live without gutters for a
few days, evenif it rains.
>
>I am getting the gutters that are already painted and I don't want to get
>paint on the new gutters and downspouts.
>
>
>
>Thanks
>
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 HeyBub
 2008-07-14 06:55:51
 Re: How are new Aluminum Seamless gutters attached?
Tube Audio wrote:
> How are new Aluminum Seamless gutters attached?
>
>
>
> Does the nail go vertically through the top piece of the gutter that
> sits under the paper and shingles? Or does the nail go horizontally
> through the inside gutter into the rafter. Or can they attach either
> way?
>
>
> I am getting a reroof, old roof torn off and new roof put on, a ranch
> style home 4/12 pitch comp shingles. The old gutters that are still
> up have the nails going horizontally through the inside of the gutter
> into the rafters.
>
>
> The reason I ask, I would like to paint the eaves before they attach
> the gutters. So was thinking they tear off the roof and gutters put
> on the new roof and then I paint and then they come back out and
> install the gutters.
>
>
> The other option is I remove the gutters myself and paint the eaves
> and the areas where the downspouts go before they start the roof. Let them
> install the new roof and gutters and then I finish painting
> the rest of the home.
>
>
> I am getting the gutters that are already painted and I don't want to
> get paint on the new gutters and downspouts.
>

Have the gutters installed a few days after the roof and after you paint.

If you're clever, you can get paint to match the gutters. If, in addition,
you get paint that matches both the gutters and a color that's available in
a spray can, you're golden. (Rustoleum's "Camouflage" is one such color).
Subsequent touch-ups are really easy.
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 parke-attorney@smalldick.com
 2008-07-14 09:42:40
 Re: How are new Aluminum Seamless gutters attached?
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:59:09 -0700, "Tube Audio"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>How are new Aluminum Seamless gutters attached?
>
>
>
>Does the nail go vertically through the top piece of the gutter that sits
>under the paper and shingles? Or does the nail go horizontally through the
>inside gutter into the rafter. Or can they attach either way?
>
>
Neither. They use duct tape.

>
>I am getting a reroof, old roof torn off and new roof put on, a ranch style
>home 4/12 pitch comp shingles. The old gutters that are still up have the
>nails going horizontally through the inside of the gutter into the rafters.
>
If they are still up, why are you replacing them. Use em till they
fall off.
>
>
>The reason I ask, I would like to paint the eaves before they attach the
>gutters. So was thinking they tear off the roof and gutters put on the new
>roof and then I paint and then they come back out and install the gutters.
>
Thats really stupid. Nobody gonna see back behind them.
>
>
>The other option is I remove the gutters myself and paint the eaves and the
>areas where the downspouts go before they start the roof. Let them install
>the new roof and gutters and then I finish painting the rest of the home.
>
It's still stupid and you need to be an expert to remove gutters or
you will die when they fall on you.

>
>I am getting the gutters that are already painted and I don't want to get
>paint on the new gutters and downspouts.
>
Then learn how to use a frucking paintbrush !!!!

>
>Thanks
>
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 Stephen King
 2008-07-14 18:01:53
 Re: How are new Aluminum Seamless gutters attached?
Silly putty.
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 Limp Arbor
 2008-07-14 11:02:50
 Re: How are new Aluminum Seamless gutters attached?
On Jul 14, 12:59 am, "Tube Audio" <[email protected]> wrote:
> How are new Aluminum Seamless gutters attached?

Best way is with something like the "ultra 5" seen here:
http://www.seamlessgutterproducts.com/brackets.htm

>
> Does the nail go vertically through the top piece of the gutter that sits
> under the paper and shingles?  Or does the nail go horizontally through the
> inside gutter into the rafter.  Or can they attach either way?

whatever is used needs to support the outside edge of the gutter.

>
> I am getting a reroof, old roof torn off and new roof put on, a ranch style
> home 4/12 pitch comp shingles.  The old gutters that are still up have the
> nails going horizontally through the inside of the gutter into the rafters.
>
> The reason I ask, I would like to paint the eaves before they attach the
> gutters.  So was thinking they tear off the roof and gutters put on the new
> roof and then I paint and then they come back out and install the gutters.
>
> The other option is I remove the gutters myself and paint the eaves and the
> areas where the downspouts go before they start the roof.  Let them install
> the new roof and gutters and then I finish painting the rest of the home.

Best option unless you have already discussed alternate plans with
your contractor. If he is planning on having the crew finish in one
day and you now want two days it will cost you more. Since it is a
ranch (single story) you can pull down the old gutters fairly easily
yourself. Usually those giant nails just fall out, but there will be
at least on that will be a real PITA to get out.

Disclaimer: It is possible for a *major* downpour to do damage if you
have no gutters.

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> I am getting the gutters that are already painted and I don't want to get
> paint on the new gutters and downspouts.
>
> Thanks