Re: Is it okay to put a fridge outside?

[email protected] wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:54:52 -0400, willshak <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Shaun Eli wrote:
>>> I'm in NY, near NYC, and I guess I could put a chain around the door
>>> so it's effectively locked open and unclosable when I'm not using it.
>>> Plus it'd be in a back yard that's surrounded by a fence. So no more
>>> an attractive nuisance than a pool...
>> OK, so the only kids that would possibly get trapped in it would be the
>> kids of relatives or friends invited to your house. How long can they
>> live without somebody noticing? 6 minutes? At least they're not kids of
>> strangers who may sue. You're OK.
>
> Why is any more dangerous than if it was in the garage or basement if
> these people have the run of the house. In real life I bet most of
> these incidents involve empty fridges. The kids would have to take out
> all the shelves, bins and a few cases of beer to get in mine.

Kids don't usually hide in closed refrigerators, washers, dryers, etc.,
when they are in the house. Maybe you can recall an earlier time in your
life when you were invincible. While playing hide and seek, you find a
refrigerator outside that is empty (after your party, when it may have
been at least partially full). You decide to hide in it. One of your
friends opens the door and finds you in there. Success!
But what of the alternative? Not so successful. If you want to tempt
fate, go for it. Maybe nothing will happen. I hope, I hope.
But, it is your decision. Good luck.

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On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:44:42 -0400, willshak <[email protected]>
wrote:

>> Why is any more dangerous than if it was in the garage or basement if
>> these people have the run of the house. In real life I bet most of
>> these incidents involve empty fridges. The kids would have to take out
>> all the shelves, bins and a few cases of beer to get in mine.
>
>Kids don't usually hide in closed refrigerators, washers, dryers, etc.,
>when they are in the house. Maybe you can recall an earlier time in your
>life when you were invincible. While playing hide and seek, you find a
>refrigerator outside that is empty (after your party, when it may have
>been at least partially full). You decide to hide in it. One of your
>friends opens the door and finds you in there. Success!
>But what of the alternative? Not so successful. If you want to tempt
>fate, go for it. Maybe nothing will happen. I hope, I hope.
>But, it is your decision. Good luck.

People trespassing on my property have as good a chance of being shot
as getting caught in the fridge

[email protected] wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:44:42 -0400, willshak <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>>Why is any more dangerous than if it was in the garage or basement if
>>>these people have the run of the house. In real life I bet most of
>>>these incidents involve empty fridges. The kids would have to take out
>>>all the shelves, bins and a few cases of beer to get in mine.
>>
>>Kids don't usually hide in closed refrigerators, washers, dryers, etc.,
>>when they are in the house. Maybe you can recall an earlier time in your
>>life when you were invincible. While playing hide and seek, you find a
>>refrigerator outside that is empty (after your party, when it may have
>>been at least partially full). You decide to hide in it. One of your
>>friends opens the door and finds you in there. Success!
>>But what of the alternative? Not so successful. If you want to tempt
>>fate, go for it. Maybe nothing will happen. I hope, I hope.
>>But, it is your decision. Good luck.
>
>
> People trespassing on my property have as good a chance of being shot
> as getting caught in the fridge
>
You'd shoot a little kid for trespass? What does that make YOU?

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on 7/20/2008 1:58 AM CJT said the following:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:44:42 -0400, willshak <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> Why is any more dangerous than if it was in the garage or basement if
>>>> these people have the run of the house. In real life I bet most of
>>>> these incidents involve empty fridges. The kids would have to take out
>>>> all the shelves, bins and a few cases of beer to get in mine.
>>>
>>> Kids don't usually hide in closed refrigerators, washers, dryers,
>>> etc., when they are in the house. Maybe you can recall an earlier
>>> time in your life when you were invincible. While playing hide and
>>> seek, you find a refrigerator outside that is empty (after your
>>> party, when it may have been at least partially full). You decide to
>>> hide in it. One of your friends opens the door and finds you in
>>> there. Success!
>>> But what of the alternative? Not so successful. If you want to tempt
>>> fate, go for it. Maybe nothing will happen. I hope, I hope.
>>> But, it is your decision. Good luck.
>>
>>
>> People trespassing on my property have as good a chance of being shot
>> as getting caught in the fridge
>>
> You'd shoot a little kid for trespass? What does that make YOU?
>
A Texan?

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willshak wrote:
> on 7/20/2008 1:58 AM CJT said the following:
>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:44:42 -0400, willshak <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Why is any more dangerous than if it was in the garage or basement if
>>>>> these people have the run of the house. In real life I bet most of
>>>>> these incidents involve empty fridges. The kids would have to take out
>>>>> all the shelves, bins and a few cases of beer to get in mine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kids don't usually hide in closed refrigerators, washers, dryers,
>>>> etc., when they are in the house. Maybe you can recall an earlier
>>>> time in your life when you were invincible. While playing hide and
>>>> seek, you find a refrigerator outside that is empty (after your
>>>> party, when it may have been at least partially full). You decide to
>>>> hide in it. One of your friends opens the door and finds you in
>>>> there. Success!
>>>> But what of the alternative? Not so successful. If you want to tempt
>>>> fate, go for it. Maybe nothing will happen. I hope, I hope.
>>>> But, it is your decision. Good luck.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> People trespassing on my property have as good a chance of being shot
>>> as getting caught in the fridge
>>>
>> You'd shoot a little kid for trespass? What does that make YOU?
>>
> A Texan?
>
I'm a Texan, and I wouldn't shoot a kid for trespassing.

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CJT wrote:
>>>>
>>>> People trespassing on my property have as good a chance of being
>>>> shot as getting caught in the fridge
>>>>
>>> You'd shoot a little kid for trespass? What does that make YOU?
>>>
>> A Texan?
>>
> I'm a Texan, and I wouldn't shoot a kid for trespassing.

I'm a Texan and trespassing is a civil offense. Usually.

Under our enlightened and benevolent state laws, citizens are not legally
allowed to shoot civil trespassers. Children, who have no criminal capacity,
cannot, by definition, be criminal trespassers. However, they may be up to
something else which renders them eligible for a bullet or two (don't
forget, kids are smaller targets).

You may use deadly force to protect yourself against another's use or
attempted use of unlawful deadly force, to prevent the imminent commission
of kidnapping, murder, rape, or robbery.

You can use deadly force to prevent somebody from committing arson,
burglary, robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during
the nighttime.

You can use deadly force to prevent someone from fleeing who has committed
burglary, robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the
loot.

Note there is no lower (or upper) age limit to the use of deadly force. Kid
or coot, same conditions.

You do get extra points if the offender is of a different race, a prior
felon, or in this country illegally. No extra points for kids and points may
be subtracted if the deceased is in a wheel-chair or otherwise significantly
disabled.