Proper BBQ Island Construction: Put LP tank under grill? How many vents?

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 Eric
 2008-07-19 19:21:47
 Proper BBQ Island Construction: Put LP tank under grill? How many vents?
Hi Guys,
I am a couple weeks away from having a company build an outdoor
island, and install my new grill (its a turbo elite drop-in). The plan
is for a cantilevered island, with two vented access doors centered
under the grillhead with room for the LP tank and a spare. The back of
the island would then have two 6X4" vents (one top, one bottom). The
area under the grillhead would have a heatshield.

I just got the grill today, and I'm flipping thru the manual, and it
is very specific about having having only ONE LP tank isolated in a
seperate enclosure, cross-ventilated, with a vented access door. It
also states that the barbeque enclosure should have upper and lower
vents (20 sq in minimum each) on both sides of the island.

I realize its generally a good idea to keep the LP tank as far away
from the heat/ignition source as possible, but is this a requirement?
Where can I find the code that regulates this? (is there one?)

Thanks,
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 Eric
 2008-07-19 22:08:52
 Re: Proper BBQ Island Construction: Put LP tank under grill? How many vents?
On Jul 19, 7:21 pm, Eric <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Guys,
> I am a couple weeks away from having a company build an outdoor
> island, and install my new grill (its a turbo elite drop-in). The plan
> is for a cantilevered island, with two vented access doors centered
> under the grillhead with room for the LP tank and a spare. The back of
> the island would then have two 6X4" vents (one top, one bottom). The
> area under the grillhead would have a heatshield.
>
> I just got the grill today, and I'm flipping thru the manual, and it
> is very specific about having having only ONE LP tank isolated in a
> seperate enclosure, cross-ventilated, with a vented access door. It
> also states that the barbeque enclosure should have upper and lower
> vents (20 sq in minimum each) on both sides of the island.
>
> I realize its generally a good idea to keep the LP tank as far away
> from the heat/ignition source as possible, but is this a requirement?
> Where can I find the code that regulates this? (is there one?)
>
> Thanks,

I can understand venting the LP tank enclosure, but I am still trying
to figure out why the manual wants the sides of the built in open (see
links for scans of what I am talking about). I am guessing they are
thinking that if you turned the burners on without actually being lit,
the propane (being heavier than air) would flow out the louvers in the
grill, down into the island, and then out the vents. To me this seems
like even more of a risk. What if the vents in the island were clogged
or something. Now you are filling the entire island with propane.
Wouldnt it be better to leave the walls around the grill solid? Worst
case is the propane fills up the grill-head (which is also vented).
This seems less dangerous than filling up the entire island...

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee189/bugman74/BBQ1.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee189/bugman74/BBQ2.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee189/bugman74/BBQ3.jpg
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 Eric
 2008-07-19 22:18:17
 Re: Proper BBQ Island Construction: Put LP tank under grill? How many vents?
On Jul 19, 10:08 pm, Eric <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jul 19, 7:21 pm, Eric <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi Guys,
> > I am a couple weeks away from having a company build an outdoor
> > island, and install my new grill (its a turbo elite drop-in). The plan
> > is for a cantilevered island, with two vented access doors centered
> > under the grillhead with room for the LP tank and a spare. The back of
> > the island would then have two 6X4" vents (one top, one bottom). The
> > area under the grillhead would have a heatshield.
>
> > I just got the grill today, and I'm flipping thru the manual, and it
> > is very specific about having having only ONE LP tank isolated in a
> > seperate enclosure, cross-ventilated, with a vented access door. It
> > also states that the barbeque enclosure should have upper and lower
> > vents (20 sq in minimum each) on both sides of the island.
>
> > I realize its generally a good idea to keep the LP tank as far away
> > from the heat/ignition source as possible, but is this a requirement?
> > Where can I find the code that regulates this? (is there one?)
>
> > Thanks,
>
> I can understand venting the LP tank enclosure, but I am still trying
> to figure out why the manual wants the sides of the built in open (see
> links for scans of what I am talking about).  I am guessing they are
> thinking that if you turned the burners on without actually being lit,
> the propane (being heavier than air) would flow out the louvers in the
> grill, down into the island, and then out the vents.  To me this seems
> like even more of a risk. What if the vents in the island were clogged
> or something. Now you are filling the entire island with propane.
> Wouldnt it be better to leave the walls around the grill solid?  Worst
> case is the propane fills up the grill-head (which is also vented).
> This seems less dangerous than filling up the entire island...
>
> http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee189/bugman74/BBQ1.jpg
>
> http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee189/bugman74/BBQ2.jpg
>
> http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee189/bugman74/BBQ3.jpg- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

Almost forgot: This is how the island would be setup:
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee189/bugman74/Plan.jpg
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 willshak
 2008-07-20 01:21:34
 Re: Proper BBQ Island Construction: Put LP tank under grill? How many vents?
Eric wrote:
> Hi Guys,
> I am a couple weeks away from having a company build an outdoor
> island, and install my new grill (its a turbo elite drop-in). The plan
> is for a cantilevered island, with two vented access doors centered
> under the grillhead with room for the LP tank and a spare. The back of
> the island would then have two 6X4" vents (one top, one bottom). The
> area under the grillhead would have a heatshield.
>
> I just got the grill today, and I'm flipping thru the manual, and it
> is very specific about having having only ONE LP tank isolated in a
> seperate enclosure, cross-ventilated, with a vented access door. It
> also states that the barbeque enclosure should have upper and lower
> vents (20 sq in minimum each) on both sides of the island.
>
> I realize its generally a good idea to keep the LP tank as far away
> from the heat/ignition source as possible, but is this a requirement?
> Where can I find the code that regulates this? (is there one?)
>
> Thanks,

I have a large barbecue grill with a storage space in the cabinet
underneath the burners. When I first got it, I put the extra filled
propane tank in there. I ran out of fuel during the party and reached
into the cabinet to get the extra tank. I burned my hand on the metal
shield around the nozzle. I decided that it was not safe to store a
propane cylinder under the burner, so no longer did.
Put it outside of the burner area, even if in the open air.

--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
in the original Orange County.
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 Don Phillipson
 2008-07-20 07:52:56
 Re: Proper BBQ Island Construction: Put LP tank under grill? How many vents?
"Eric" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I just got the grill today, and I'm flipping thru the manual, and it
> is very specific about having having only ONE LP tank isolated in a
> seperate enclosure, cross-ventilated, with a vented access door. It
> also states that the barbeque enclosure should have upper and lower
> vents (20 sq in minimum each) on both sides of the island.
>
> I realize its generally a good idea to keep the LP tank as far away
> from the heat/ignition source as possible, but is this a requirement?
> Where can I find the code that regulates this? (is there one?)

Fire safety code regulations for LP storage are available
from the municipal government office that issues building
permits where you live. (Some fire brigades may also
provide this information free.) You may find out your
contractor needs a building permit for the work you want done.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
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 SteveB
 2008-07-20 12:23:57
 Re: Proper BBQ Island Construction: Put LP tank under grill? How many vents?
Don Phillipson wrote:

> You may find out your
> contractor needs a building permit for the work you want done.

It's likely you _will_ need a building permit. Most towns where I work
require a permit for any permanent construction. Heck, they require
permits for anything but paint.

--
Steve Bell
New Life Home Improvement
Arlington, TX
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 Boden
 2008-07-20 10:57:17
 Re: Proper BBQ Island Construction: Put LP tank under grill? How many vents?
SteveB wrote:

> Don Phillipson wrote:
>
>
>>You may find out your
>>contractor needs a building permit for the work you want done.
>
>
> It's likely you _will_ need a building permit. Most towns where I work
> require a permit for any permanent construction. Heck, they require
> permits for anything but paint.
>
Your town doesn't (yet) have a Historical Preservation Review Board.
They issue the permits to paint, approve the color and finish.

Love those liberals.
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 willshak
 2008-07-20 13:38:09
 Re: Proper BBQ Island Construction: Put LP tank under grill? How many vents?
on 7/20/2008 10:57 AM Boden said the following:
> SteveB wrote:
>
>> Don Phillipson wrote:
>>
>>
>>> You may find out your
>>> contractor needs a building permit for the work you want done.
>>
>>
>> It's likely you _will_ need a building permit. Most towns where I work
>> require a permit for any permanent construction. Heck, they require
>> permits for anything but paint.
>>
> Your town doesn't (yet) have a Historical Preservation Review Board.
> They issue the permits to paint, approve the color and finish.
>
> Love those liberals.

I used to live in a town that had a Historical Preservation zone.
No AC units in the windows, no vinyl or aluminum siding, outside paint
could only be Colonial colors, etc. They went so far as to regulate
Christmas tree decorations visible to the outside. A single white or
clear electric candle in each window was all that was allowed.
A new resident of the zone protested the zoning ordinances by painting
his house and trim in shades of purple. I thought it looked kinda cool,
like something out of Disneyworld. I never found out what was the
resolution to the dispute, since I moved away.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
in the original Orange County
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