Security System

<The Midnight Gardener> wrote in message
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> Can anyone recommend a good video security system? I need
> one that can see at night,must be outdoor compatible,
> uses motion sensing and can record to a DVR. The most
> important thing for me is image quality, it must be very
> good. I always see those grainy crime videos on tv and
> wonder why someone even bothered paying money for the
> system.
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> http://midnightgardener.blogspot.com

That would depend on your budget and your determination. I installed a DVR
card in a computer and use many different camera types but never get great
results with night surveillance. How many cameras do you want to use? What
is your ballpark budget and are you willing to do some building? Do you want
a plug'n'play setup? Can you building some enclosures to house some cameras?
Do you want wireless or wired? Do you want tilt,pan and zoom? There are so
many options.

Try here:

http://www.cctvforum.com/index.php




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On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 04:33:16 -0400, "Jones" <[email protected]> wrote:


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> That would depend on your budget and your determination. I installed a DVR
>card in a computer and use many different camera types but never get great
>results with night surveillance. How many cameras do you want to use?

i will be using 4 cameras

>What
>is your ballpark budget

Ballpark budget of 500.00 to 1000.00
>and are you willing to do some building?

Not sure what you mean by building.
> Do you want
>a plug'n'play setup? Can you building some enclosures to house some cameras?
>Do you want wireless or wired?

I want wireless unless there is going to be a range problem. I would
like to place the DVR at the television, so the farthest camera from
here would be about 30 to 50 feet. Currently I have a wirless dsl
router at the tv that I use for the internet connection and to
download movies from Direct TV.

> Do you want tilt,pan and zoom? There are so
>many options.

Don't really care about tilt, pan or zoom. The most important thing
for me is; can I see the hoodlums face or vehicle in the dark at 30
feet well enough to ID them.

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> Try here:
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>http://www.cctvforum.com/index.php






http://midnightgardener.blogspot.com

<The Midnight Gardener> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 04:33:16 -0400, "Jones"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> That would depend on your budget and your determination.
>>I installed a DVR card in a computer and use many
>>different camera types but never get great results with
>>night surveillance. How many cameras do you want to use?
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> i will be using 4 cameras
>
>>What
>>is your ballpark budget
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> Ballpark budget of 500.00 to 1000.00
>>and are you willing to do some building?
>
> Not sure what you mean by building.

I mean if you would be willing to build a camera enclosure to assure
weather Proofing or you just want stock cameras.

>> Do you want
>>a plug'n'play setup? Can you building some enclosures to
>>house some cameras? Do you want wireless or wired?
>
> I want wireless unless there is going to be a range
> problem. I would like to place the DVR at the television,
> so the farthest camera from here would be about 30 to 50
> feet. Currently I have a wirless dsl router at the tv
> that I use for the internet connection and to download
> movies from Direct TV.

Wireless can be costly if you want a good signal but 50 ft is not that far.
The picture quality can be an issue with cheap wireless systems. Zoom is a
good feature for getting in close enough to ID a person. Wide angle viewing
mostly will not give you a good image of a face. As I mentioned a very cheap
way to go can be adding an old used Handycam. I have several purchased for
about $50 and work very well in limited light. You would need to construct
a weather proof box which are a bit larger than some on the smaller cameras
made for survailence. I have some that are mounted inside a bedroom window
that work well. There are cheap Rotating Camera Platforms like
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3128170&Sku=W08-2014&SRCCODE=GOOGLEBASE&CMP=OTC-GOOGLEBASE


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>> Do you want tilt,pan and zoom? There are so
>>many options.
>
> Don't really care about tilt, pan or zoom. The most
> important thing for me is; can I see the hoodlums face or
> vehicle in the dark at 30 feet well enough to ID them.
>

You have to seach for wireless security systems:
http://www.homesecuritystore.com/ of which there are many. I installed a
DVR card http://netpromax.net/ for a bit about $160.00 which has 4 video
inputs but you can get them with many more or you can get DVR box that needs
no computer. I can output signal to TV or monitor switchable. When someone
rings the doorbell I can change the channel and see who is at the door.

Radio Shack and other stores have cheap 2.4 Gig wireless systems that can
output to TV or you can spend much more. I have combined many systems cheap
and expensive and can supply you with many more references if you need any
more personal information on what might meet your needs.



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>>http://www.cctvforum.com/index.php
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heard about a fellow who used motion sensor lights, not only did
motion trip on lights but recorded too.

excellent PQ he sed very brite lights.

what you want to do is make your home or whatever more trouble than
its worth.

a nice yappy dog, with motion lights should do this.

dogs detect motion noise etc etc before anyone else

<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> heard about a fellow who used motion sensor lights, not
> only did motion trip on lights but recorded too.
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> excellent PQ he sed very brite lights.
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> what you want to do is make your home or whatever more
> trouble than its worth.
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> a nice yappy dog, with motion lights should do this.
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> dogs detect motion noise etc etc before anyone else

You are so very right. You can however set your area of detection to be
higher than the level of a dog or small animal if you like. It all depends
on how far you want to go. When I am in my computer room on the third floor
I can't even hear the door bell. With a monitor I know I don't have to get
up to speak with the bible thumpers but want to get there for the UPS guy.
Nothing records when the ball goes over my lawn but it does when the kid
goes to retrieve it and stops to pick an apple from my tree.



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