Shiny Spots on T&G Pine Ceiling????

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 infiniteMPG
 2008-07-03 16:09:41
 Shiny Spots on T&G Pine Ceiling????
We just finished up putting tongue & groove pine boards in the ceiling
of our porch. The porch area is about 25-feet wide so we trimmed down
14-foot and 12-foot boards so there is a single alternating joint in
each row. Looks good and we needed to stain it so we sampled more
stains then we can shake a stick at and decided on Minwax's Ipswitch
Pine. Just now finished up all the staining (and am barely able to
type from the overhead work) and it looks great with one exception.
Some of the board parts have a high shine to them and other parts are
very dull and flat. Was just differences in parts of the wood as you
can see the patterns in the shiny areas. Biggest problem is the bare
pine was light and when you see the light reflection on the shiny
spots it looks like we missed spots but we didn't.

What we were wondering is if someone could recommend maybe a satin
clear protector or something we can spray or brush over top of the
stain, not only to protect the wood, but also to unify the finish
appearance. Would prefer a satin or dull finish over shine, but would
like something easy to apply like in spray cans. We have some
Thompson's Water Sealer in spray cans but don't want to "test" on the
actual ceiling unless we're sure we're going to do the whole thing.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
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 franz fripplfrappl
 2008-07-04 02:07:09
 Re: Shiny Spots on T&G Pine Ceiling????
On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:09:41 -0700, infiniteMPG wrote:

> We just finished up putting tongue & groove pine boards in the ceiling
> of our porch. The porch area is about 25-feet wide so we trimmed down
> 14-foot and 12-foot boards so there is a single alternating joint in
> each row. Looks good and we needed to stain it so we sampled more
> stains then we can shake a stick at and decided on Minwax's Ipswitch
> Pine. Just now finished up all the staining (and am barely able to type
> from the overhead work) and it looks great with one exception. Some of
> the board parts have a high shine to them and other parts are very dull
> and flat. Was just differences in parts of the wood as you can see the
> patterns in the shiny areas. Biggest problem is the bare pine was light
> and when you see the light reflection on the shiny spots it looks like
> we missed spots but we didn't.
>
> What we were wondering is if someone could recommend maybe a satin clear
> protector or something we can spray or brush over top of the stain, not
> only to protect the wood, but also to unify the finish appearance.
> Would prefer a satin or dull finish over shine, but would like something
> easy to apply like in spray cans. We have some Thompson's Water Sealer
> in spray cans but don't want to "test" on the actual ceiling unless
> we're sure we're going to do the whole thing.
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions!

When I was at Menards to inquire about finishing pine treads, I was told
there is a product for prepping the wood so the stain would take evenly.
Can't recall the product name but I think it was also by Minwax.

I suspect the difference you are seeing is due to porosity of wood and
presence of sap/oil in the wood. If a penetrating stain is used, it
seems reasonable to expect that the stain would be absorbed differently
depending on structure of wood. A topical stain would probably cover
more evenly.



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Franz Fripplfrappl
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 hr(bob) hofmann@att.net
 2008-07-03 19:19:02
 Re: Shiny Spots on T&G Pine Ceiling????
On Jul 3, 9:07 pm, franz fripplfrappl <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:09:41 -0700, infiniteMPG wrote:
> > We just finished up putting tongue & groove pine boards in the ceiling
> > of our porch.  The porch area is about 25-feet wide so we trimmed down
> > 14-foot and 12-foot boards so there is a single alternating joint in
> > each row.  Looks good and we needed to stain it so we sampled more
> > stains then we can shake a stick at and decided on Minwax's Ipswitch
> > Pine.  Just now finished up all the staining (and am barely able to type
> > from the overhead work) and it looks great with one exception. Some of
> > the board parts have a high shine to them and other parts are very dull
> > and flat.  Was just differences in parts of the wood as you can see the
> > patterns in the shiny areas.  Biggest problem is the bare pine was light
> > and when you see the light reflection on the shiny spots it looks like
> > we missed spots but we didn't.
>
> > What we were wondering is if someone could recommend maybe a satin clear
> > protector or something we can spray or brush over top of the stain, not
> > only to protect the wood, but also to unify the finish appearance.
> > Would prefer a satin or dull finish over shine, but would like something
> > easy to apply like in spray cans.  We have some Thompson's Water Sealer
> > in spray cans but don't want to "test" on the actual ceiling unless
> > we're sure we're going to do the whole thing.
>
> > Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
>
> When I was at Menards to inquire about finishing pine treads, I was told
> there is a product for prepping the wood so the stain would take evenly.  
> Can't recall the product name but I think it was also by Minwax.
>
> I suspect the difference you are seeing is due to porosity of wood and
> presence of sap/oil in the wood.  If a penetrating stain is used, it
> seems reasonable to expect that the stain would be absorbed differently
> depending on structure of wood.  A topical stain would probably cover
> more evenly.
>
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Give everything a week to dry, then apply any kind of finish product
that you prefer. If you want to double-check the final appearance, I
would stain a scrap of leftover material, let it wait a few days, and
then try youtr finish of choice on the scrap to make sure it is what
you want.

Bob Hofmann
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 nofaith@ingod.com
 2008-07-04 00:09:08
 Re: Shiny Spots on T&G Pine Ceiling????
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 16:09:41 -0700 (PDT), infiniteMPG
<[email protected]> wrote:

>We just finished up putting tongue & groove pine boards in the ceiling
>of our porch. The porch area is about 25-feet wide so we trimmed down
>14-foot and 12-foot boards so there is a single alternating joint in
>each row. Looks good and we needed to stain it so we sampled more
>stains then we can shake a stick at and decided on Minwax's Ipswitch
>Pine. Just now finished up all the staining (and am barely able to
>type from the overhead work) and it looks great with one exception.
>Some of the board parts have a high shine to them and other parts are
>very dull and flat. Was just differences in parts of the wood as you
>can see the patterns in the shiny areas. Biggest problem is the bare
>pine was light and when you see the light reflection on the shiny
>spots it looks like we missed spots but we didn't.
>
>What we were wondering is if someone could recommend maybe a satin
>clear protector or something we can spray or brush over top of the
>stain, not only to protect the wood, but also to unify the finish
>appearance. Would prefer a satin or dull finish over shine, but would
>like something easy to apply like in spray cans. We have some
>Thompson's Water Sealer in spray cans but don't want to "test" on the
>actual ceiling unless we're sure we're going to do the whole thing.
>
>Thanks in advance for any suggestions!

Don't worry about it. Once a hurricane, tornado, fire, flood, or
terrorist attack gets to it, you won't even notice the difference.
Since the United States is quickly being destroyed by one of the above
disasters, it's only a short matter of time before you won't have to
look at it anymore.
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 ransley
 2008-07-04 04:24:01
 Re: Shiny Spots on T&G Pine Ceiling????
On Jul 3, 6:09 pm, infiniteMPG <[email protected]> wrote:
> We just finished up putting tongue & groove pine boards in the ceiling
> of our porch.  The porch area is about 25-feet wide so we trimmed down
> 14-foot and 12-foot boards so there is a single alternating joint in
> each row.  Looks good and we needed to stain it so we sampled more
> stains then we can shake a stick at and decided on Minwax's Ipswitch
> Pine.  Just now finished up all the staining (and am barely able to
> type from the overhead work) and it looks great with one exception.
> Some of the board parts have a high shine to them and other parts are
> very dull and flat.  Was just differences in parts of the wood as you
> can see the patterns in the shiny areas.  Biggest problem is the bare
> pine was light and when you see the light reflection on the shiny
> spots it looks like we missed spots but we didn't.
>
> What we were wondering is if someone could recommend maybe a satin
> clear protector or something we can spray or brush over top of the
> stain, not only to protect the wood, but also to unify the finish
> appearance.  Would prefer a satin or dull finish over shine, but would
> like something easy to apply like in spray cans.  We have some
> Thompson's Water Sealer in spray cans but don't want to "test" on the
> actual ceiling unless we're sure we're going to do the whole thing.
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions!

Dont consider spray cans, it will be in your face and lungs, it will
cost a fortune, it probably wont come out even. What you see is the
sap areas. To protect it and keep it from darkening alot use an
exterior water base poly and roll it on.
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 HeyBub
 2008-07-04 07:05:34
 Re: Shiny Spots on T&G Pine Ceiling????
infiniteMPG wrote:
> We just finished up putting tongue & groove pine boards in the ceiling
> of our porch. The porch area is about 25-feet wide so we trimmed down
> 14-foot and 12-foot boards so there is a single alternating joint in
> each row. Looks good and we needed to stain it so we sampled more
> stains then we can shake a stick at and decided on Minwax's Ipswitch
> Pine. Just now finished up all the staining (and am barely able to
> type from the overhead work) and it looks great with one exception.
> Some of the board parts have a high shine to them and other parts are
> very dull and flat. Was just differences in parts of the wood as you
> can see the patterns in the shiny areas. Biggest problem is the bare
> pine was light and when you see the light reflection on the shiny
> spots it looks like we missed spots but we didn't.

I think that's the consequence of real wood - it's not uniform.

'Bout the only way for a similar project to come out perfectly is to use
laminate flooring.

Before you scream "nuts!" I once suggested carpeting the walls of a computer
room. The carpet people did the job, then went outside and ate bugs, but the
noise level went down dramatically.

You could probably get by with the least expensive laminate - it won't have
much traffic. Better glue it, though.