Re: Swimming pool light - electricians?

Bob Vila would love this group, post #109,332
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 buffalobill
 2008-07-21 00:17:55
 Re: Swimming pool light - electricians?
On Jul 21, 1:32 am, "MiamiCuse" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "RBM" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > "MiamiCuse" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >>I have two lights about 3 feet below the water surface. One of them turn
> >>on and one of them went off recently.
>
> >> I had the electrician who was working on my remodeling take a look, and
> >> he opened a junction box near the pool, and there is power at the
> >> junction box, so it is either the bulb or the light fixture is bad.
>
> >> He told me normally swimming pool lights are low voltage, but in my case,
> >> the wire going to the light is not low voltage but 110v. He said either
> >> the light fixture has a built in low-voltage transformer, or when they
> >> put the light fixture in back in the 70s, they used a 110v light fixture,
> >> and I need a specialist that deals with pool lights to examine it.
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> >> Do I need to hire an electrician that is specialized in pool light
> >> fixtures? or do I need to drain the pool down below the fixture level to
> >> take a look myself?
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> >> My water table is very high being in Miami, I was told I cannot drain it
> >> or it will crack, what if I drain my pool to half full (25000 gallon
> >> pool) it will not crack right?
>
> >> Thanks,
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> >> MC
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> > Line voltage pool light fixtures are very standard. Typically, one screw
> > holds the totally enclosed fixture into a niche in the wall of the pool.
> > If you remove the screw, there should be enough cord inside the niche, for
> > the fixture to be lifted out and placed on the pool deck for repair. If
> > the fixture is in good shape you may be able to replace the lamp and
> > reseal the fixture without water getting in, but if not , just replace the
> > entire fixture. These things come with cords attached, which you can buy
> > at whatever length you need to reach the deck box.
>
> From the box to the pool light I would estimate about twenty feet...I think
> this is pretty far I don't know why they located it so far away. In any
> case the box is about 12" above the deck, a 1" PVC conduit attached to it's
> base and the PVC conduit disappeared into the deck and eventually to the
> pool light.
>
> When the electrician was looking at the box, we took apart the plastic box
> cover, and the 90 degree PVC elbow below it was loose, I tried to tighten it
> but instead loosened it, and this is really strange, water seeped out of it.
> I managed to tighten it back up, but the PVC conduit 18' away was partly
> filled with water. I think the water level is the same as the pool surface.
> I think this is not normal right? I would assume if this is line voltage
> and the conduit is filled with water, then it's wet from there all the way
> to the fixture? Something about this makes me real nervous...

buffalo ny: the light could be 110v or 12v or any voltage the last
owner connected there. easy clue: read the voltage on the bulb.
for ease of installation, find a similar sized replacement UL listed
underwater fixture at your local pool supply company.
hire a licensed experienced electrician there are always code updates
to follow with swimming pools. you may have a water leak from the
pool or rainwater is in your electrical devices, this requires your
prompt repair.
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 gfretwell@aol.com
 2008-07-20 22:59:17
 Re: Swimming pool light - electricians?
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:25:01 -0400, "MiamiCuse"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I have two lights about 3 feet below the water surface. One of them turn on
>and one of them went off recently.
>
>I had the electrician who was working on my remodeling take a look, and he
>opened a junction box near the pool, and there is power at the junction box,
>so it is either the bulb or the light fixture is bad.
>
>He told me normally swimming pool lights are low voltage, but in my case,
>the wire going to the light is not low voltage but 110v. He said either the
>light fixture has a built in low-voltage transformer, or when they put the
>light fixture in back in the 70s, they used a 110v light fixture, and I need
>a specialist that deals with pool lights to examine it.
>
>Do I need to hire an electrician that is specialized in pool light fixtures?
>or do I need to drain the pool down below the fixture level to take a look
>myself?
>
>My water table is very high being in Miami, I was told I cannot drain it or
>it will crack, what if I drain my pool to half full (25000 gallon pool) it
>will not crack right?
>
>Thanks,
>


You already have the skinny on getting the fixture out. What they
didn't say is to flip the breaker first. You will also find the
manufacturers recommend replacing the gasket when you put it back
together.
These lights are now required to be on a GFCI but that was not true in
the 70s. I would recommend getting the GFCI.