Toilet Supply Line Hazard

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 Steve
 2008-07-18 11:49:07
 Toilet Supply Line Hazard
In February the master bath toilet supply line in my unoccupied house
failed. By the time the next-door neighbor noticed water coming out of
the house, all rooms but the front two bedrooms were flooded, and the
drywall was damp as high as 8" in some places.

This line was installed by the builder in 1998, and has a plastic
coupler at the toilet end. This coupler is what failed - it split open.
The result was approximately $25K in damage - most of the carpeting,
vinyl floors in both bathrooms and laundry, all of the MDF baseboards,
and repainting of rooms except the previously-mentioned front bedrooms.

State Farm took great care of us, and between the work done by a local
company to remove ruined stuff, dry everything out and do some of the
repairs, plus the work I did myself, we were able to move back into the
house starting in May.

But here's the thing: I inspected the coupling on the hall bathroom
toilet, and it was starting to crack too. So when I replaced them, I
tried to find supply lines that had metal couplings, but no joy.
They're ALL plastic now. But I noticed the new ones are made with more
solid thicker plastic than the ones that failed.

So my advice is this: Check those toilet supply lines, and replace them
if they look like they're starting to crack - it'll save you a lot of grief!

--Steve
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 Cheri
 2008-07-18 12:27:06
 Re: Toilet Supply Line Hazard
Steve wrote in message ...

>So my advice is this: Check those toilet supply lines, and replace
them
>if they look like they're starting to crack - it'll save you a lot of
grief!
>
>--Steve

Thanks for the heads up, I wouldn't have thought to check those.


Cheri
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 Wayne Whitney
 2008-07-18 19:40:05
 Re: Toilet Supply Line Hazard
On 2008-07-18, Steve <[email protected]> wrote:

> So when I replaced them, I tried to find supply lines that had metal
> couplings, but no joy. They're ALL plastic now.

If you want all metal construction, try a corrugated stainless steel
water supply connector. Here's one manufacturer of them, there are
others: <http://www.falconstainless.com>.

Cheers, Wayne
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 Oren
 2008-07-18 12:56:50
 Re: Toilet Supply Line Hazard
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:49:07 -0700, Steve <[email protected]>
wrote:

>So my advice is this: Check those toilet supply lines, and replace them
>if they look like they're starting to crack - it'll save you a lot of grief!

The may even crack when installed, so don't over tighten. Same with
any of the plastic fasteners.
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 N8N
 2008-07-18 13:46:31
 Re: Toilet Supply Line Hazard
On Jul 18, 2:49 pm, Steve <[email protected]> wrote:
> In February the master bath toilet supply line in my unoccupied house
> failed.  By the time the next-door neighbor noticed water coming out of
> the house, all rooms but the front two bedrooms were flooded, and the
> drywall was damp as high as 8" in some places.
>
> This line was installed by the builder in 1998, and has a plastic
> coupler at the toilet end.  This coupler is what failed - it split open.
>   The result was approximately $25K in damage - most of the carpeting,
> vinyl floors in both bathrooms and laundry, all of the MDF baseboards,
> and repainting of rooms except the previously-mentioned front bedrooms.
>
> State Farm took great care of us, and between the work done by a local
> company to remove ruined stuff, dry everything out and do some of the
> repairs, plus the work I did myself, we were able to move back into the
> house starting in May.
>
> But here's the thing: I inspected the coupling on the hall bathroom
> toilet, and it was starting to crack too.  So when I replaced them, I
> tried to find supply lines that had metal couplings, but no joy.
> They're ALL plastic now.  But I noticed the new ones are made with more
> solid thicker plastic than the ones that failed.
>
> So my advice is this:  Check those toilet supply lines, and replace them
> if they look like they're starting to crack - it'll save you a lot of grief!
>
> --Steve

I bought a chromed hard line from my local plumbing supply; it has a
brass nut on it. I think that that was actually two separate pieces,
so you could probably buy the brass nut separately. I assume you're
talking about the nut that attaches to the bottom of the fill valve,
yes?

nate
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 HeyBub
 2008-07-18 16:52:58
 Re: Toilet Supply Line Hazard
Steve wrote:
> In February the master bath toilet supply line in my unoccupied house
> failed. By the time the next-door neighbor noticed water coming out
> of the house, all rooms but the front two bedrooms were flooded, and the
> drywall was damp as high as 8" in some places.
>
> This line was installed by the builder in 1998, and has a plastic
> coupler at the toilet end. This coupler is what failed - it split
> open. The result was approximately $25K in damage - most of the
> carpeting, vinyl floors in both bathrooms and laundry, all of the MDF
> baseboards,
> and repainting of rooms except the previously-mentioned front
> bedrooms.
> State Farm took great care of us, and between the work done by a local
> company to remove ruined stuff, dry everything out and do some of the
> repairs, plus the work I did myself, we were able to move back into
> the house starting in May.
>
> But here's the thing: I inspected the coupling on the hall bathroom
> toilet, and it was starting to crack too. So when I replaced them, I
> tried to find supply lines that had metal couplings, but no joy.
> They're ALL plastic now. But I noticed the new ones are made with
> more solid thicker plastic than the ones that failed.
>
> So my advice is this: Check those toilet supply lines, and replace
> them if they look like they're starting to crack - it'll save you a lot of
> grief!

That, and turning off the water to an unoccupied house...
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 Steve Barker DLT
 2008-07-18 17:27:12
 Re: Toilet Supply Line Hazard
Here's some better advice. Turn off the water when you leave the house.
Even if it just to go to the store. To leave it on in an unoccupied house
was just asking for a disaster.

s


"Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:L4SdnZkbtq4-eB3VnZ2dnUVZ_ozinZ2d@posted.surewest...
> In February the master bath toilet supply line in my unoccupied house
> failed. By the time the next-door neighbor noticed water coming out of
> the house, all rooms but the front two bedrooms were flooded, and the
> drywall was damp as high as 8" in some places.
>
> This line was installed by the builder in 1998, and has a plastic coupler
> at the toilet end. This coupler is what failed - it split open. The
> result was approximately $25K in damage - most of the carpeting, vinyl
> floors in both bathrooms and laundry, all of the MDF baseboards, and
> repainting of rooms except the previously-mentioned front bedrooms.
>
> State Farm took great care of us, and between the work done by a local
> company to remove ruined stuff, dry everything out and do some of the
> repairs, plus the work I did myself, we were able to move back into the
> house starting in May.
>
> But here's the thing: I inspected the coupling on the hall bathroom
> toilet, and it was starting to crack too. So when I replaced them, I
> tried to find supply lines that had metal couplings, but no joy. They're
> ALL plastic now. But I noticed the new ones are made with more solid
> thicker plastic than the ones that failed.
>
> So my advice is this: Check those toilet supply lines, and replace them
> if they look like they're starting to crack - it'll save you a lot of
> grief!
>
> --Steve
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 Nate Nagel
 2008-07-18 20:41:58
 Re: Toilet Supply Line Hazard
I actually do this if I'm leaving for more than a day. Too much
"vintage" plumbing in the house that hasn't been completely checked out
by Yours Truly yet.

nate

Steve Barker DLT wrote:
> Here's some better advice. Turn off the water when you leave the house.
> Even if it just to go to the store. To leave it on in an unoccupied house
> was just asking for a disaster.
>
> s
>
>
> "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:L4SdnZkbtq4-eB3VnZ2dnUVZ_ozinZ2d@posted.surewest...
>
>>In February the master bath toilet supply line in my unoccupied house
>>failed. By the time the next-door neighbor noticed water coming out of
>>the house, all rooms but the front two bedrooms were flooded, and the
>>drywall was damp as high as 8" in some places.
>>
>>This line was installed by the builder in 1998, and has a plastic coupler
>>at the toilet end. This coupler is what failed - it split open. The
>>result was approximately $25K in damage - most of the carpeting, vinyl
>>floors in both bathrooms and laundry, all of the MDF baseboards, and
>>repainting of rooms except the previously-mentioned front bedrooms.
>>
>>State Farm took great care of us, and between the work done by a local
>>company to remove ruined stuff, dry everything out and do some of the
>>repairs, plus the work I did myself, we were able to move back into the
>>house starting in May.
>>
>>But here's the thing: I inspected the coupling on the hall bathroom
>>toilet, and it was starting to crack too. So when I replaced them, I
>>tried to find supply lines that had metal couplings, but no joy. They're
>>ALL plastic now. But I noticed the new ones are made with more solid
>>thicker plastic than the ones that failed.
>>
>>So my advice is this: Check those toilet supply lines, and replace them
>>if they look like they're starting to crack - it'll save you a lot of
>>grief!
>>
>>--Steve
>
>
>


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