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DariaSimic
2008-06-26 09:07:27
Autotune live
Hello
When I was on a forum for fans of a popular singer an argument broke
out between this guy and these two girls about a particular song that
was included in the 2nd leg of the tour. One of the girls (who I know
is married to a vocal coach so she should know what she's talking
about) said when they sang a particular high note in this song at
times it was pitchy. She was up close and went to a few of the
concerts.
However this guy said that during the tour, on the upper range of
their voice he thought he heard naunces that people have told him what
autotune does to your voice. He did say that these were very few and
far between and that he doesn't think that they use it that often, if
at all. Then another women said that at the end of the tour the
singer had gone sharp on the high C.
So taking all this into account do you think it was possible that
autotune was in use on a low setting for certain parts of the tour or
maybe it was on such a low setting that it didn't correct the high C.
This guy did say that he couldn't be sure that this was autotune that
he was hearing and certainly at a big concert it could be anything
which he heard. Do you think it was possible that the singer on some
night fet their voice was a bit rough and thought autotune would help?
Also, the women said that they have never seen the autotune boxes at
their concerts. Does this box have to be situated in the PA area or
can it be under the stage?
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Jenn
2008-06-26 09:13:42
Re: Autotune live
In article
<[email protected]>,
DariaSimic <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello
>
> When I was on a forum for fans of a popular singer an argument broke
> out between this guy and these two girls about a particular song that
> was included in the 2nd leg of the tour. One of the girls (who I know
> is married to a vocal coach so she should know what she's talking
> about) said when they sang a particular high note in this song at
> times it was pitchy. She was up close and went to a few of the
> concerts.
>
> However this guy said that during the tour, on the upper range of
> their voice he thought he heard naunces that people have told him what
> autotune does to your voice. He did say that these were very few and
> far between and that he doesn't think that they use it that often, if
> at all. Then another women said that at the end of the tour the
> singer had gone sharp on the high C.
>
> So taking all this into account do you think it was possible that
> autotune was in use on a low setting for certain parts of the tour or
> maybe it was on such a low setting that it didn't correct the high C.
> This guy did say that he couldn't be sure that this was autotune that
> he was hearing and certainly at a big concert it could be anything
> which he heard. Do you think it was possible that the singer on some
> night fet their voice was a bit rough and thought autotune would help?
>
> Also, the women said that they have never seen the autotune boxes at
> their concerts. Does this box have to be situated in the PA area or
> can it be under the stage?
I didn't know that pitch correction was used live. To me, this is
terrible news. Bad enough, IMO, that it's used for recordings.
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Arny Krueger
2008-06-26 12:20:19
Re: Autotune live
"Jenn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> In article
> <[email protected]>,
> DariaSimic <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> When I was on a forum for fans of a popular singer an
>> argument broke out between this guy and these two girls
>> about a particular song that was included in the 2nd leg
>> of the tour. One of the girls (who I know is married to
>> a vocal coach so she should know what she's talking
>> about) said when they sang a particular high note in
>> this song at times it was pitchy. She was up close and
>> went to a few of the concerts.
>>
>> However this guy said that during the tour, on the upper
>> range of their voice he thought he heard naunces that
>> people have told him what autotune does to your voice.
>> He did say that these were very few and far between and
>> that he doesn't think that they use it that often, if at
>> all. Then another women said that at the end of the
>> tour the singer had gone sharp on the high C.
>>
>> So taking all this into account do you think it was
>> possible that autotune was in use on a low setting for
>> certain parts of the tour or maybe it was on such a low
>> setting that it didn't correct the high C. This guy did
>> say that he couldn't be sure that this was autotune that
>> he was hearing and certainly at a big concert it could
>> be anything which he heard. Do you think it was
>> possible that the singer on some night fet their voice
>> was a bit rough and thought autotune would help?
>>
>> Also, the women said that they have never seen the
>> autotune boxes at their concerts. Does this box have to
>> be situated in the PA area or can it be under the stage?
>
> I didn't know that pitch correction was used live.
http://www.antarestech.com/
> To me, this is terrible news. Bad enough, IMO, that it's
> used for recordings.
Autotune is sometimes overused as an EFX, live or recorded. No intent that
its effects not be noticed.
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Jenn
2008-06-26 09:22:52
Re: Autotune live
In article <[email protected]>,
"Arny Krueger" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Jenn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> > In article
> > <[email protected]>,
> > DariaSimic <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello
> >>
> >> When I was on a forum for fans of a popular singer an
> >> argument broke out between this guy and these two girls
> >> about a particular song that was included in the 2nd leg
> >> of the tour. One of the girls (who I know is married to
> >> a vocal coach so she should know what she's talking
> >> about) said when they sang a particular high note in
> >> this song at times it was pitchy. She was up close and
> >> went to a few of the concerts.
> >>
> >> However this guy said that during the tour, on the upper
> >> range of their voice he thought he heard naunces that
> >> people have told him what autotune does to your voice.
> >> He did say that these were very few and far between and
> >> that he doesn't think that they use it that often, if at
> >> all. Then another women said that at the end of the
> >> tour the singer had gone sharp on the high C.
> >>
> >> So taking all this into account do you think it was
> >> possible that autotune was in use on a low setting for
> >> certain parts of the tour or maybe it was on such a low
> >> setting that it didn't correct the high C. This guy did
> >> say that he couldn't be sure that this was autotune that
> >> he was hearing and certainly at a big concert it could
> >> be anything which he heard. Do you think it was
> >> possible that the singer on some night fet their voice
> >> was a bit rough and thought autotune would help?
> >>
> >> Also, the women said that they have never seen the
> >> autotune boxes at their concerts. Does this box have to
> >> be situated in the PA area or can it be under the stage?
> >
> > I didn't know that pitch correction was used live.
>
> http://www.antarestech.com/
>
> > To me, this is terrible news. Bad enough, IMO, that it's
> > used for recordings.
>
> Autotune is sometimes overused as an EFX, live or recorded. No intent that
> its effects not be noticed.
Yes, I know of the "Cher effect" for example. As an effect, that's one
thing, but to "fix" a performer's bad performance...blech!
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Chris Whealy
2008-06-26 18:21:43
Re: Autotune live
Jenn wrote
> Yes, I know of the "Cher effect" for example. As an effect, that's one
> thing, but to "fix" a performer's bad performance...blech!
>
We had a thread about this a couple of weeks ago. Although a /similar/
effect can be produced using an Antares autotune, the "Cher Effect" was
created by a Korg VC10 analogue vocoder.
Chris W
--
The voice of ignorance speaks loud and long,
But the words of the wise are quiet and few.
---
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Romeo Rondeau
2008-06-26 13:55:16
Re: Autotune live
Chris Whealy wrote:
> Jenn wrote
>> Yes, I know of the "Cher effect" for example. As an effect, that's
>> one thing, but to "fix" a performer's bad performance...blech!
>>
> We had a thread about this a couple of weeks ago. Although a /similar/
> effect can be produced using an Antares autotune, the "Cher Effect" was
> created by a Korg VC10 analogue vocoder.
>
> Chris W
>
Actually they lied about that, it was Autotune.
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Gareth Magennis
2008-06-26 19:13:51
Re: Autotune live
"Romeo Rondeau" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:kCR8k.9881$xZ.3004@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...
> Chris Whealy wrote:
>> Jenn wrote
>>> Yes, I know of the "Cher effect" for example. As an effect, that's one
>>> thing, but to "fix" a performer's bad performance...blech!
>>>
>> We had a thread about this a couple of weeks ago. Although a /similar/
>> effect can be produced using an Antares autotune, the "Cher Effect" was
>> created by a Korg VC10 analogue vocoder.
>>
>> Chris W
>>
>
> Actually they lied about that, it was Autotune.
Oh really? Take a listen to this then, while trying to ignore the
ridiculous remix. It uses just the vocal sample, and it is quite clearly
NOT autotune. Not even close.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f17vq4ov8U
Gareth.
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