Converting mp3 to mp3

Professional audio recording and studio engineering, post #46,428
Author:
Date:
Subject:
 Gareth Magennis
 2008-07-16 07:48:40
 Converting mp3 to mp3
Hi,

I have recorded an mp3 internet CD stream onto a CDR burner in real time.
So what I have is a finalised CD in normal CD format, but the quality is
obviously only mp3. How do I get this into mp3 format without losing
anything? I assume if I just convert to mp3 it will compress and lose more
data in the process.

I can import it into Wavelab or Audacity for processing, but as far as I can
see it will still think it is CD quality.


Cheers,


Gareth.
Author:
Date:
Subject:
 Don Pearce
 2008-07-16 09:17:04
 Re: Converting mp3 to mp3
Gareth Magennis wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have recorded an mp3 internet CD stream onto a CDR burner in real time.
> So what I have is a finalised CD in normal CD format, but the quality is
> obviously only mp3. How do I get this into mp3 format without losing
> anything? I assume if I just convert to mp3 it will compress and lose more
> data in the process.
>
> I can import it into Wavelab or Audacity for processing, but as far as I can
> see it will still think it is CD quality.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Gareth.
>
>

You already have it in MP3 format - the one you originally got off the
Internet. Why don't you use that? Multiple generations of conversion
into MP3 are seriously bad news.

d
Author:
Date:
Subject:
 Gareth Magennis
 2008-07-16 10:09:12
 Re: Converting mp3 to mp3
"Don Pearce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:zKKdneKVGaEdM-DVnZ2dnUVZ8sednZ2d@posted.plusnet...
> Gareth Magennis wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have recorded an mp3 internet CD stream onto a CDR burner in real time.
>> So what I have is a finalised CD in normal CD format, but the quality is
>> obviously only mp3. How do I get this into mp3 format without losing
>> anything? I assume if I just convert to mp3 it will compress and lose
>> more data in the process.
>>
>> I can import it into Wavelab or Audacity for processing, but as far as I
>> can see it will still think it is CD quality.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>> Gareth.
>
> You already have it in MP3 format - the one you originally got off the
> Internet. Why don't you use that? Multiple generations of conversion into
> MP3 are seriously bad news.
>
> d

OK, here's the story. The mp3 stream in question is 8 hours long, played in
an endless loop. What I have done is to record my analogue soundcard output
in real time onto my CD burner, fading out and swapping blank CD's when
full. (I don't mind the odd gaps) - taking up 7 CD's altogether. I would
like to convert these to mp3 to store and play on my laptop, slightly less
cumbersome than CD's. My girlfriends portable mp3 player will only accept
mp3 format or WMA (I think), and it would be nice if she could also listen
with her preferred equipment.

I messed around trying to find something I have that would record direct to
mp3 but gave up, as the real time CD burner is an elegant solution for an
initial recording and archiving. A single 8 hour mp3 recording would give
me problems, I believe.

I guess if I could find something I have to record in mp3 I could take the
digital out from a CD player and record all 7 CD's in real time, but that is
quite a task - I am looking for a quicker and easier alternative.


Cheers,



Gareth.
Author:
Date:
Subject:
 Don Pearce
 2008-07-16 10:14:38
 Re: Converting mp3 to mp3
Gareth Magennis wrote:
> "Don Pearce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:zKKdneKVGaEdM-DVnZ2dnUVZ8sednZ2d@posted.plusnet...
>> Gareth Magennis wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have recorded an mp3 internet CD stream onto a CDR burner in real time.
>>> So what I have is a finalised CD in normal CD format, but the quality is
>>> obviously only mp3. How do I get this into mp3 format without losing
>>> anything? I assume if I just convert to mp3 it will compress and lose
>>> more data in the process.
>>>
>>> I can import it into Wavelab or Audacity for processing, but as far as I
>>> can see it will still think it is CD quality.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>> Gareth.
>> You already have it in MP3 format - the one you originally got off the
>> Internet. Why don't you use that? Multiple generations of conversion into
>> MP3 are seriously bad news.
>>
>> d
>
> OK, here's the story. The mp3 stream in question is 8 hours long, played in
> an endless loop. What I have done is to record my analogue soundcard output
> in real time onto my CD burner, fading out and swapping blank CD's when
> full. (I don't mind the odd gaps) - taking up 7 CD's altogether. I would
> like to convert these to mp3 to store and play on my laptop, slightly less
> cumbersome than CD's. My girlfriends portable mp3 player will only accept
> mp3 format or WMA (I think), and it would be nice if she could also listen
> with her preferred equipment.
>
> I messed around trying to find something I have that would record direct to
> mp3 but gave up, as the real time CD burner is an elegant solution for an
> initial recording and archiving. A single 8 hour mp3 recording would give
> me problems, I believe.
>
> I guess if I could find something I have to record in mp3 I could take the
> digital out from a CD player and record all 7 CD's in real time, but that is
> quite a task - I am looking for a quicker and easier alternative.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Gareth.
>
>

OK. I see where you are. Any DAW programme will do this for you.
Audacity is the obvious choice because it is free.

d
Author:
Date:
Subject:
 Gareth Magennis
 2008-07-16 10:23:26
 Re: Converting mp3 to mp3
"Don Pearce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:JeidnUyUhqJjJuDVnZ2dnUVZ8vGdnZ2d@posted.plusnet...
> Gareth Magennis wrote:
>> "Don Pearce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:zKKdneKVGaEdM-DVnZ2dnUVZ8sednZ2d@posted.plusnet...
>>> Gareth Magennis wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have recorded an mp3 internet CD stream onto a CDR burner in real
>>>> time. So what I have is a finalised CD in normal CD format, but the
>>>> quality is obviously only mp3. How do I get this into mp3 format
>>>> without losing anything? I assume if I just convert to mp3 it will
>>>> compress and lose more data in the process.
>>>>
>>>> I can import it into Wavelab or Audacity for processing, but as far as
>>>> I can see it will still think it is CD quality.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gareth.
>>> You already have it in MP3 format - the one you originally got off the
>>> Internet. Why don't you use that? Multiple generations of conversion
>>> into MP3 are seriously bad news.
>>>
>>> d
>>
>> OK, here's the story. The mp3 stream in question is 8 hours long, played
>> in an endless loop. What I have done is to record my analogue soundcard
>> output in real time onto my CD burner, fading out and swapping blank CD's
>> when full. (I don't mind the odd gaps) - taking up 7 CD's altogether. I
>> would like to convert these to mp3 to store and play on my laptop,
>> slightly less cumbersome than CD's. My girlfriends portable mp3 player
>> will only accept mp3 format or WMA (I think), and it would be nice if she
>> could also listen with her preferred equipment.
>>
>> I messed around trying to find something I have that would record direct
>> to mp3 but gave up, as the real time CD burner is an elegant solution for
>> an initial recording and archiving. A single 8 hour mp3 recording would
>> give me problems, I believe.
>>
>> I guess if I could find something I have to record in mp3 I could take
>> the digital out from a CD player and record all 7 CD's in real time, but
>> that is quite a task - I am looking for a quicker and easier alternative.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>> Gareth.
>>
>>
>
> OK. I see where you are. Any DAW programme will do this for you. Audacity
> is the obvious choice because it is free.
>
> d


Thanks, I'm looking for the best way to lose the least amount of data.

If you mp3 an mp3, how much worse is it? I guess you won't lose the same
amount of data as the first conversion, because there is not so much
information to convert, or am I mistaken? (if you low res JPEG an already
low res JPEG, it doesn't get much smaller at all, is the way I am thinking).

Cheers,




Gareth.