Re: Help us save usenet news for Time-Warner customers

In article <6Jh6k.21280$3j2.15170@trnddc03>,
Mike Rivers <[email protected]> wrote:

> Usenet user wrote:
> > Time-Warner corporate is dropping usenet news as of June 23, 2008.
>
> Times are tough all over. I just got a notice from Verizon that they're
> dropping some news hierarchies. That, so far, doesn't affect me since
> rec.audio.pro is the only Usenet newsgroup I read and they're keeping
> the whole rec. group (as well as the rest of the "big-8": comp.*
> humanities.* misc.* news.* sci.* soc.* talk.*
>
> I suppose what they're really saying is that they're dropping the alt.
> groups because that's where all the sex and copyright violations are.


Mike:
Verizon customer here as well. So that email wasn't a scam,
unfortunately. I posted a warning about this in another newsgroup I
follow (alt.binaries.pictures.rail - railroad pictures) and somebody
mentioned the rates were going up too. Received nothing about that
recently. I have my phone and internet (3 meg dsl) through them. It's
not only porn in the alt hierarchy - there's music groups, non-porn
picture groups, games groups, etc.

--
Jack N2MPU
Proud NRA Life Member
change nyob.com to verizon.net for email

Jack wrote:

> Verizon customer here as well. So that email wasn't a scam,
> unfortunately. I posted a warning about this in another newsgroup I
> follow (alt.binaries.pictures.rail - railroad pictures) and somebody
> mentioned the rates were going up too. Received nothing about that
> recently. I have my phone and internet (3 meg dsl) through them.

Yeah, I do have phone and DSL (though the lowest speed, 768 kbps) with
Verizon. When I got my phone bill last month I noticed that my DSL had
jumped from $14.95 to $21.95 and I hadn't received any notice of that
either. I called them and they told me that they sent me two e-mails
about the rate increase, but I didn't get either one. They gave me a
break and changed me to the annual contract rate of $19.95 per month,
but that's a 26% hike, and I don't expect that I'm going to get a 26%
cost of living increase in my retirement pension any time soon.

Still, it's the cheapest Internet deal I can get around here (I don't
have cable TV), so they have me by the balls.

--
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me here:
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([email protected])

On Jun 19, 11:26 am, Mike Rivers <[email protected]> wrote:
> Jack wrote:
> > Verizon customer here as well. So that email wasn't a scam,
>

if they reduce the service, they need to reduce the price too..


someone needs to start a class action..

Mark

Mark <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Jun 19, 11:26 am, Mike Rivers <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Jack wrote:
> > > Verizon customer here as well. So that email wasn't a scam,
> >
>
> if they reduce the service, they need to reduce the price too..
>
>
> someone needs to start a class action..
>
> Mark

Do y'all not understand how easy it is to get really good Usenet
service, regardless of ISP?

For example (I use this one): www.individual.net/

--
ha
Iraq is Arabic for Vietnam

On Jun 19, 4:26 pm, [email protected] (hank alrich) wrote:
> Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Jun 19, 11:26 am, Mike Rivers <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Jack wrote:
> > > > Verizon customer here as well. So that email wasn't a scam,
>
> > if they reduce the service, they need to reduce the price too..
>
> > someone needs to start a class action..
>
> > Mark
>
> Do y'all not understand how easy it is to get really good Usenet
> service, regardless of ISP?
>
> For example (I use this one):  www.individual.net/
>
> --
> ha
> Iraq is Arabic for Vietnam

well it is now,.... but if the trend is started by the big boys and
then the others follow suit, it may not be so easy in the future..

Mark

Mike Rivers wrote:

>
> Still, it's the cheapest Internet deal I can get around here (I don't
> have cable TV), so they have me by the balls.
>
It might be different where you are, but in these parts you can get cable
internet without buying cable tv. You do have to be in the service area
though, and the cheapest net-only package is still $25/month.

Agent 86 <[email protected]> wrote in news:485adac2$0$20160
$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:

> It might be different where you are, but in these parts you can get cable
> internet without buying cable tv. You do have to be in the service area
> though, and the cheapest net-only package is still $25/month.


Cable internet-only is not at all cheap here in Albuquerque, and our
provider is the nationally dominant one. Comcast actually charges more
here for their Internet-only package than they do for Internet plus basic
Cable TV. So I have the latter, despite never having owned a TV in my
life. With tax it is currently $58.31/month, without modem rental. My
house is too far from my phone switch to allow useful DSL until recently,
but now they have apparently installed some form of neighborhood repeater
box (don't remember the real name), so I'm actively considering DSL. Even
the faster regular service ("up to" 7 Mb/sec) would be less than 2/3 of my
cable price here.

"Mike Rivers" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:6Jh6k.21280$3j2.15170@trnddc03...
> Usenet user wrote:
> > Time-Warner corporate is dropping usenet news as of June 23, 2008.
>
> Times are tough all over. I just got a notice from Verizon that they're
> dropping some news hierarchies. That, so far, doesn't affect me since
> rec.audio.pro is the only Usenet newsgroup I read and they're keeping
> the whole rec. group (as well as the rest of the "big-8": comp.*
> humanities.* misc.* news.* sci.* soc.* talk.*
>
> I suppose what they're really saying is that they're dropping the alt.
> groups because that's where all the sex and copyright violations are.


That's also the home of religious, political and conspiracy discussion.

Speaking of conspiracy, to intentionally limit open public conversations is
more than just a bit questionable... it would be a simple matter to screen
the subject matter of the 'alt' groups in order to eliminate porn and binaries.
Verizon is not the only service dropping the 'alt' heirarchy... it's happening
all over the country.

David Morgan \(MAMS\) <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote:
>
>Speaking of conspiracy, to intentionally limit open public conversations is
>more than just a bit questionable... it would be a simple matter to screen
>the subject matter of the 'alt' groups in order to eliminate porn and binaries.
>Verizon is not the only service dropping the 'alt' heirarchy... it's happening
>all over the country.

And a lot of smaller site never carried altnet in the first place.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

David Morgan (MAMS) wrote:

>
> "Mike Rivers" <[email protected]> wrote in message

>> I suppose what they're really saying is that they're dropping the alt.
>> groups because that's where all the sex and copyright violations are.
>
>
> That's also the home of religious, political and conspiracy discussion.

It's also the home of alt.audio.pro.live-sound.

..oh, you said that already.