How do I change speed of whole song in Pro Tools?

On Jun 7, 12:23 pm, NotReallyMe <[email protected]> wrote:
> I used to record on an Adat XT-20 and it had a little button I could
> turn to adjust the pitch (which would also speed up or slow down the
> song). If I recall it worked in 1 cent increments. I used it quite a
> bit.
>
> Is there something equivalent in Pro Tools LE ?
>
> I know that v7.4 has elastic audio, but I don't want to process any of
> the sound, I just want to make the whole song a little quicker and the
> incremental pitch change is ok.
>
> Thanks

AFAIK, you can't do it that easily. What happens on the XT20 is that
the sample rate is changed to provide the pitch change, and this works
fine as long as your output is analog. if you use a digital output,
the unit being recorded to links to the sample rate and your change is
negated.

There is a pitch change plug-in in ProTools LE audio suite (comes with
the program and if you don't check the time correction box, the effect
will be the same except that your pitch/speed change will stay with
the mixed files.

When you use this plug-in,your original files is rewritten and saved
as a new file.

On Jun 7, 3:23 pm, Richard Kuschel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> AFAIK, you can't do it that easily. What happens on the XT20 is that
> the sample rate is changed to provide the pitch change, and this works
> fine as long as your output is analog. if you use a digital output,
> the unit being recorded to links to the sample rate and your change is
> negated.
>
> There is a pitch change plug-in in ProTools LE audio suite (comes with
> the program and if you don't check the time correction box, the effect
> will be the same except that your pitch/speed change will stay with
> the mixed files.
>
> When you use this plug-in,your original files is rewritten and saved
> as a new file.

Thanks Richard. I found the pitch plug-in you mentioned, but I'm
reluctant to have the files re-written 'cuz I'm thinking that the
edits and fades, automation will be burned in stone after the re-
write.

I keep tinkering with the Tempo change dialog box but no luck in
changing the whole song yet. Dang, this digital stuff is sooooooo
cool and yet sometimes so frustrating for doing just the simplest
things.

NotReallyMe <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Thanks Richard. I found the pitch plug-in you mentioned, but I'm
>reluctant to have the files re-written 'cuz I'm thinking that the
>edits and fades, automation will be burned in stone after the re-
>write.

Make a backup. Make a full backup EVERY time you make a major change to
anything, and label the backup with the date and some information about the
change you are going to make.

>I keep tinkering with the Tempo change dialog box but no luck in
>changing the whole song yet. Dang, this digital stuff is sooooooo
>cool and yet sometimes so frustrating for doing just the simplest
>things.

I believe you select all, and then use the tempo change.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

In article <g2gkgk$hrh$1@panix2.panix.com>,
[email protected] (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

> >I keep tinkering with the Tempo change dialog box but no luck in
> >changing the whole song yet. Dang, this digital stuff is sooooooo
> >cool and yet sometimes so frustrating for doing just the simplest
> >things.
>
> I believe you select all, and then use the tempo change.
> --scott
> --
> "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."



Scott, I don't think he's talking about 30 tracks of MIDI data but
actual audio files.

You can speed it up or slow it down with a Sync I/O box, but that's PT
TDM not LE.

Maybe that fancy studio you're going to has one.




David Correia
www.Celebrationsound.com

david correia <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Scott, I don't think he's talking about 30 tracks of MIDI data but
>actual audio files.
>
>You can speed it up or slow it down with a Sync I/O box, but that's PT
>TDM not LE.
>
>Maybe that fancy studio you're going to has one.

No, I'm talking about the time-stretching function that resamples the data,
rather than actually doing a real rate shift in hardware.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

david correia wrote:
> In article <g2gkgk$hrh$1@panix2.panix.com>,
> [email protected] (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
>
>>> I keep tinkering with the Tempo change dialog box but no luck in
>>> changing the whole song yet. Dang, this digital stuff is sooooooo
>>> cool and yet sometimes so frustrating for doing just the simplest
>>> things.
>>
>> I believe you select all, and then use the tempo change.
>> --scott
>> --
>> "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
>
>
>
> Scott, I don't think he's talking about 30 tracks of MIDI data but
> actual audio files.
>
> You can speed it up or slow it down with a Sync I/O box, but that's PT
> TDM not LE.

In Acid just type the new tempo in the tempo box. Surely PT can do
something like that ?

geoff

> > There is a pitch change plug-in in ProTools LE audio suite (comes with
> > the program and if you don't check the time correction box, the effect
> > will be the same except that your pitch/speed change will stay with
> > the mixed files.
>
> > When you use this plug-in,your original files is rewritten and saved
> > as a new file.
>
> Thanks Richard.  I found the pitch plug-in you mentioned, but I'm
> reluctant to have the files re-written 'cuz I'm thinking that the
> edits and fades, automation will be burned in stone after the re-
> write.



The file isn't rewritten over, it's just that it puts the new file in
its place on the track. Your original files are untouched unless you
have selected "overwrite" in the plugin menu, which it doesn't default
to. For your purposes it should be at "continuous"

If there are fades and edits you want to not have to recreate, simply
make a new track and option drag files over to that track and they'll
still be there after you do the pitch change,

> > There is a pitch change plug-in in ProTools LE audio suite (comes with
> > the program and if you don't check the time correction box, the effect
> > will be the same except that your pitch/speed change will stay with
> > the mixed files.
>

That's not quite right. The check box just toggles the time
compensation. Also, that's the old plug in that Digi left in for
compatibility. More recent versions (less recent than current ones
with Elastic Time) have the improved version in the newer Time Shift
Audio Suite plug. It has more options as well. That's the one you
want. Choose the setting that fits your needs and see if the sound
suits you. You can alter the pitch and compensate the time in
different ratios.

On Jun 8, 8:10 am, rboy <[email protected]> wrote:


>
> > > There is a pitch change plug-in in ProTools LE audio suite (comes with
> > > the program and if you don't check the time correction box, the effect
> > > will be the same except that your pitch/speed change will stay with
> > > the mixed files.
>
> That's not quite right. The check box just toggles the time
> compensation. Also, that's the old plug in that Digi left in for
> compatibility. More recent versions (less recent than current ones
> with Elastic Time) have the improved version in the newer Time Shift
> Audio Suite plug. It has more options as well. That's the one you
> want. Choose the setting that fits your needs and see if the sound
> suits you. You can alter the pitch and compensate the time in
> different ratios.

You're right. My statement wasn't clear.
What I meant to say was:

There is a pitch change plug-in in ProTools LE audio suite (comes with
the program and if you don't check the time correction box, the
effect
will be the same AS IT WOULD BE ON THE XT20 except that your pitch/
speed change will stay with
the mixed files.

I'm not shouting, I just put the caps in for clarity.
my LE is 6.4

The real beauty of ProTools is that unless you specifically overwrite
or delete a file, the original file still exists and can be retrieved
and reused at any time.