MARC PHILLIPS, AUDIO REVIEWER -- DO NOT TRUST

"Soundhaspriority" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> And if Marc Phillips can't argue honestly, if Marc
> Phillips resorts to misrepresentation of the position of
> others, it's good reason not to trust his published audio
> opinons or advice. If a man is dishonest in one sphere,
> he may very well be dishonest in another.

Very old news.

Soundhaspriority wrote:

> And if Marc Phillips can't argue honestly, if Marc Phillips resorts to
> misrepresentation of the position of others, it's good reason not to trust
> his published audio opinons or advice. If a man is dishonest in one sphere,
> he may very well be dishonest in another.

And the reason for this advice today ?

Since when was ANY paid audio reviewer honest ?

Graham

"Eeyore" <[email protected]> wrote in
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> Soundhaspriority wrote:
>
>> And if Marc Phillips can't argue honestly, if Marc
>> Phillips resorts to misrepresentation of the position of
>> others, it's good reason not to trust his published
>> audio opinions or advice. If a man is dishonest in one
>> sphere, he may very well be dishonest in another.
>
> And the reason for this advice today ?
>
> Since when was ANY paid audio reviewer honest ?

AFAIK Marc is not paid for his writing. He claims not to be an equipment
reviewer but he does make favorable comments about specific pieces of
equipment. From his comments, it seems that he might use his published
columns to get high end equipment loaned to him from time to time.

I had a roommate in college who played this game to significant advantage.
He managed to get a few record reviews published in our University
newspaper. He took clippings of the columns around to the record
distributors in town, and got on their reviewer's list. He started reviewing
a dozen more copies of albums to review every week. A lot of it was kinda
off-the-wall, but he also got a lot of good stuff free. Unfortunately, I
don't think it works exactly the same way with high end audio gear.

Oh, one other thing - the weekly record reviews did get him shall I say
favorable contact, with a ongoing stream of artsy chicks.

On Jun 20, 12:52�pm, "Arny Krueger" <[email protected]> wrote:

> AFAIK Marc is not paid for his writing.

AFAYK. And you don't "know" anything. You're guessing.

He claims not to be an equipment
> reviewer

I've never made that claim. I don't review equipment for that one
website where I donate an article once every two months.

but he does make favorable comments about specific pieces of
> equipment.

It's called a "good review."

From his comments, it seems that he might use his published
> columns to get high end equipment loaned to him from time to time.

I get high end equipment sent to me from the publisher of the audio
magazine where I'm an editor and reviewer. That's part of my PAID
duties.

Wow, Arny...what you don't know about me just about fills up the Grand
Canyon. And it's not like I haven't told you, either.

Boon

"Vinylanach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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On Jun 20, 12:52?pm, "Arny Krueger" <[email protected]> wrote:

> AFAIK Marc is not paid for his writing.

AFAYK. And you don't "know" anything. You're guessing.

>He claims not to be an equipment
> reviewer

I've never made that claim. I don't review equipment for that one
website where I donate an article once every two months.

> but he does make favorable comments about specific pieces of
> equipment.

It's called a "good review."

>From his comments, it seems that he might use his published
> columns to get high end equipment loaned to him from time to time.

I get high end equipment sent to me from the publisher of the audio
magazine where I'm an editor and reviewer. That's part of my PAID
duties.

***Where you write what's required to ensure the manufacturer // owner //
importer // distributer continues to spend his money on advertiseing in your
magazine, there by ensureing your wages and employment.

***So if I'm wrong, When was the last time you wrote the truth, and said
the item up for review was a pile of over priced junk, and there full page
advert on the next page did not influance your judgement.

***And every reviewers the same, regardless of the product. They simply
write what the advertiser likes to hear, and the day a review writes the
truth, is the day the adveriser withdrews his fat advertiseing fee's and the
magazine closes it's doors..


bassett

On Jun 21, 7:07�pm, "bassett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Vinylanach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:5bfe069c-9124-4aa0-aea3-dc7db036dd31@j33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 20, 12:52?pm, "Arny Krueger" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > AFAIK Marc is not paid for his writing.
>
> AFAYK. �And you don't "know" anything. �You're guessing.
>
> �>He claims not to be an equipment
>
> > reviewer
>
> I've never made that claim. �I don't review equipment for that one
> website where I donate an article once every two months.
>
> > but he does make favorable comments about specific pieces of
> > equipment.
>
> It's called a "good review."
>
> �>From his comments, it seems that he might use his published
>
> > columns to get high end equipment loaned to him from time to time.
>
> I get high end equipment sent to me from the publisher of the audio
> magazine where I'm an editor and reviewer. �That's part of my PAID
> duties.
>
> ***Where you write what's required to ensure the �manufacturer // owner //
> importer // distributer continues to spend his money on advertiseing in your
> magazine, �there by ensureing your wages and employment.
>
> ***So if I'm wrong, �When was the last time you wrote the truth, and said
> the item up for review was a pile of over priced junk, �and there full page
> advert on the next page did not influance your �judgement.
>
> ***And every reviewers the same, regardless of the product. They simply
> write what the advertiser likes to hear, and the day a review writes the
> truth, is the day the adveriser withdrews his fat advertiseing fee's and the
> magazine closes �it's doors..
>
> � � � � � � � � � � � bassett

If you look at the facts, you'll see that there is no correlation
between our reviews and our advertisers. We've given bad reviews to
products from our advertisers, and good reviews to products from
companies who have flat out told us that they will never advertise
with us. We're the ones who went against the grain and gave a
lukewarm review to a $60,000 turntable.

It's nice to wander around the Internet, talking about what you THINK
you know. It's quite another to actual observe the facts and make
comments based on THAT. Sadly, this is becoming the norm.

Boon

"Vinylanach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
"bassett" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> ***So if I'm wrong, ?When was the last time you wrote the truth, and said
> the item up for review was a pile of over priced junk, ?and there full
> page
> advert on the next page did not influance your ?judgement.
>
> ***And every reviewers the same, regardless of the product. They simply
> write what the advertiser likes to hear, and the day a review writes the
> truth, is the day the adveriser withdrews his fat advertiseing fee's and
> the
> magazine closes ?it's doors..
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? bassett

If you look at the facts, you'll see that there is no correlation
between our reviews and our advertisers. We've given bad reviews to
products from our advertisers,

*** Name the magazine and the dates of the BAD reviews, or supply a link,
where you state
there simply not worth the price asked.Or are a bad investment and not up to
the job.

and good reviews to products from companies who have flat out told us
that they will never advertise with us. We're the ones who went against
the grain and gave a lukewarm review to a $60,000 turntable.

***Define lukewarm. Unfortunately, the price of something has no relevance
to the
quality of the product. Just look at some of the cheap and plain nasty
cars that are imported,
Which strangly enough, are labelled "European Excellence" Where in fact
the truth is, there just
common, domestic production runs, or Jo Average family hacks, in there
country of origan

It's nice to wander around the Internet, talking about what you THINK
you know. It's quite another to actual observe the facts and make
comments based on THAT. Sadly, this is becoming the norm.

Boon

*** It's also nice to openly expose shonks and con-men. And the old mith of
something being far superier to something which is much cheaper is long
gone. As for your 60 grand turntable, Does that quantify the fact that
it's 60 times better then a turntable worth a grand. No of cause it
doesn't. it just means it's imported, with a fancy unpronounceable name.
And the chances are the importer has tripled the retail price. for proof
of that, consider the price of products in world markets like Hong Kong and
Dubai. Now look at the same price here.
Of cause you will wail about service and warrenties, But if the thing is
so bloody wonderful why would you want a warrenty or service in the first
place.

*** As for reviews in magazines. Take an old cornflakes box down to some
magazine chains, Give them a 100 grand for advertising, and they will make
your cornflakes box product of the year.
Advertiseing can and does make or brake a product, and also the way the
advertising is marketed and promottion of the product. Any product. So
anyone writing a review , dare not say anything derogatory for fear of
loosing the advertising dollar. For evidence of this just consider Helcro,
and the large amounts of cash they invested with Stereophile magazine some
years ago.

bassett