Neutrik XX series XLr's and locking window

Ray Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm considering buying a set of male and female Neutrik NC3MXX/NC3FXX XLR
>connectors, however the specs on the male plugs state that it lacks the
>latching connector locking window that mates with the latch on the female
>plug for positive linkage. Neutrik claim that this results in greater
>strength for the connector, but it seems like a step backwards (why include
>the latch on one connector but not it's corresponding 'window cut-out' on
>the other ?) Will this result in more easily broken connections, compared
>with those made using other brands of connectors (eg Amphenol, Cannon) that
>do have the cut-out window ? I'm confused.
>Ray

You can order Neutrik connectors with the window, or without the window.
They make both kinds.

Sometimes the window is important because it's a good thing for the cables
to lock together. Sometimes the window is a bad thing, because it is better
for the cables to come apart than be torn out.

The Switchcraft connectors hold in tightly enough that you can tow the
remote truck with them, at least for a couple feet. Unfortunately the
Canare cable is not so strong, and neither is the connector panel in
the truck.
--scott
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On 2008-06-19 kludge@panix.com(ScottDorsey) said:
>Sometimes the window is important because it's a good thing for the
>cables to lock together. Sometimes the window is a bad thing,
>because it is better for the cables to come apart than be torn out.
True, but I still like locking together. wHen the job's
over the first thing my guy and I do is release cables from
their connections at the other end, if we're using xlr
direct from the truck, such as from distribution amp to
satellite uplink, then we disengage at the sat truck first,
coil toward our rig.

>The Switchcraft connectors hold in tightly enough that you can tow
>the remote truck with them, at least for a couple feet.
>Unfortunately the Canare cable is not so strong, and neither is the
>connector panel in the truck.
Neither would mine be I"m sure. fOr most jobs they'd be
pulling on the splitter rack inside if not cables between
facilities outside, which will probably be xlr.
IF somebody's exerting that much force on cablng then my
third hand isn't doing his job properly in routing or in
tear down responsibilities, and I"m looking for a
replacement employee <g>.
I"ll take the security of the window in most circumstances I
think.



Richard webb,
replace anything before at with elspider

> The Switchcraft connectors hold in tightly enough that you can tow the
> remote truck with them, at least for a couple feet. Unfortunately the
> Canare cable is not so strong, and neither is the connector panel in
> the truck.

You did actually try this, didn't you :)

Bm

Badmuts <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The Switchcraft connectors hold in tightly enough that you can tow the
>> remote truck with them, at least for a couple feet. Unfortunately the
>> Canare cable is not so strong, and neither is the connector panel in
>> the truck.
>
>You did actually try this, didn't you :)

No, I was several hundred feet away at the time, watching a microphone
splitter go by.
--scott
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On Jun 20, 7:45 am, [email protected] (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

> No, I was several hundred feet away at the time, watching a microphone
> splitter go by.

I KNEW there had to be a great story there. Thanks for sharing...
fabulous image! Although I'm sure it wasn't funny at that moment...

"Ray Thomas" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I'm considering buying a set of male and female Neutrik NC3MXX/NC3FXX XLR
>connectors, however the specs on the male plugs state that it lacks the
>latching connector locking window that mates with the latch on the female
>plug for positive linkage.

That's right.


>Neutrik claim that this results in greater
>strength for the connector, but it seems like a step backwards (why include
>the latch on one connector but not it's corresponding 'window cut-out' on
>the other ?) Will this result in more easily broken connections, compared
>with those made using other brands of connectors (eg Amphenol, Cannon) that
>do have the cut-out window ? I'm confused.

They still lock. The only difference is: There is no window anymore.
Instead they use a small notch on the inside of the housing where the
latch locks in.

Anyway: Should you think of more than ~10 sets: use Amphenol.
At least in case you want to keep your fingers.
The XX-series connectors are a pain in the neck when it comes to
mounting the cap on the rear.

Sebastian


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> Anyway: Should you think of more than ~10 sets: use Amphenol.
> At least in case you want to keep your fingers.
> The XX-series connectors are a pain in the neck when it comes to
> mounting the cap on the rear.
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> -

Huh?? I don't find them a problem to mount.

I find the Neutrik XX to work very well and am in the process of
changing out my really old Switchcraft females to the Neutrik.

I am not in love with the Amphenol at all.

Richard Kuschel <[email protected]> wrote:

>Huh?? I don't find them a problem to mount.

Well yeah - if you have to mount one or two.
Try at least 10 and your fingers will hurt.


Sebastian


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On 20/06/08 22:22, in article [email protected],
"Sebastian Zuendorf" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Richard Kuschel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Huh?? I don't find them a problem to mount.
>
> Well yeah - if you have to mount one or two.
> Try at least 10 and your fingers will hurt.

Try this: http://www.neutrik.com/us/en/audio/210_1127742132/HTX_detail.aspx

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Joe Kotroczo <[email protected]> wrote:

>> Well yeah - if you have to mount one or two.
>> Try at least 10 and your fingers will hurt.
>
>Try this: http://www.neutrik.com/us/en/audio/210_1127742132/HTX_detail.aspx

Even if these things were available somewhere around here - I don't
need them for Amphenol connectors :-)

BTW: did you ever try to re-open one of those XX-series plugs?

sebastian


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Sebastian Zuendorf wrote:

> BTW: did you ever try to re-open one of those XX-series plugs?

That was one of the very first things I noticed about that series.
There's a kind of ratchet on the strain relief. I asked Neutrik about it
and they said "Oh, nobody's ever had a problem with that." Yeah, nobody
who doesn't have two pairs of pliers. What's pretty amazing, though, is
that it doesn't break when you unscrew it. I'll give them credit for that.

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