New tune . Your opinions please .

Professional audio recording and studio engineering, post #46,491
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 Bluesplayer
 2008-07-17 05:50:38
 New tune . Your opinions please .
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 Neil Rutman
 2008-07-17 07:10:57
 Re: New tune . Your opinions please .
I would have been happy to listen and to comment as many have done for me
but I don't like to download unknown files. If it were available as a stream
I would have listened.

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Neil R

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 Don Pearce
 2008-07-17 15:24:06
 Re: New tune . Your opinions please .
Neil Rutman wrote:
> I would have been happy to listen and to comment as many have done for me
> but I don't like to download unknown files. If it were available as a stream
> I would have listened.
>

Didn't see the original post, but I have listened and here are some
comments.

1. The spoken bit at the beginning is redundant, given that the lyrics
in the rest of the song are indecipherable. Fascinating as a history
lesson about the Huns may be - lose it or you've lost your audience.

2. The drumming is leaden and tedious.

3. The guitar part is too relentless. Much better to punctuate with
occasional riffs than just have them noodling all the way through.

4. It needs some dynamics - back off the limiting and let the whole
thing breathe a bit.

d
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 Bluesplayer
 2008-07-17 11:27:44
 Re: New tune . Your opinions please .
On 17 Jul, 15:24, Don Pearce <[email protected]> wrote:
> Neil Rutman wrote:
> > I would have been happy to listen and to comment as many have done for me
> > but I don't like to download unknown files. If it were available as a stream
> > I would have listened.
>
> Didn't see the original post, but I have listened and here are some
> comments.
>
> 1. The spoken bit at the beginning is redundant, given that the lyrics
> in the rest of the song are indecipherable. Fascinating as a history
> lesson about the Huns may be - lose it or you've lost your audience.
>
> 2. The drumming is leaden and tedious.
>
> 3. The guitar part is too relentless. Much better to punctuate with
> occasional riffs than just have them noodling all the way through.
>
> 4. It needs some dynamics - back off the limiting and let the whole
> thing breathe a bit.
>
> d

So apart from that ......................
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 Don Pearce
 2008-07-17 19:45:25
 Re: New tune . Your opinions please .
 Bluesplayer wrote:
> On 17 Jul, 15:24, Don Pearce <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Neil Rutman wrote:
>>> I would have been happy to listen and to comment as many have done for me
>>> but I don't like to download unknown files. If it were available as a stream
>>> I would have listened.
>> Didn't see the original post, but I have listened and here are some
>> comments.
>>
>> 1. The spoken bit at the beginning is redundant, given that the lyrics
>> in the rest of the song are indecipherable. Fascinating as a history
>> lesson about the Huns may be - lose it or you've lost your audience.
>>
>> 2. The drumming is leaden and tedious.
>>
>> 3. The guitar part is too relentless. Much better to punctuate with
>> occasional riffs than just have them noodling all the way through.
>>
>> 4. It needs some dynamics - back off the limiting and let the whole
>> thing breathe a bit.
>>
>> d
>
> So apart from that ......................

OK. But what is going to set you apart from a million other bands that
make that identical sound? This has all been done to death, and you need
to think up your own thing. What it boils down to is a simple question -
why would I want to buy this record? Show me that, and I'll say you've
done the job.

d
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 Bluesplayer
 2008-07-17 12:13:13
 Re: New tune . Your opinions please .
On 17 Jul, 19:45, Don Pearce <[email protected]> wrote:
>   Bluesplayer wrote:
> > On 17 Jul, 15:24, Don Pearce <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Neil Rutman wrote:
> >>> I would have been happy to listen and to comment as many have done for me
> >>> but I don't like to download unknown files. If it were available as a stream
> >>> I would have listened.
> >> Didn't see the original post, but I have listened and here are some
> >> comments.
>
> >> 1. The spoken bit at the beginning is redundant, given that the lyrics
> >> in the rest of the song are indecipherable. Fascinating as a history
> >> lesson about the Huns may be - lose it or you've lost your audience.
>
> >> 2. The drumming is leaden and tedious.
>
> >> 3. The guitar part is too relentless. Much better to punctuate with
> >> occasional riffs than just have them noodling all the way through.
>
> >> 4. It needs some dynamics - back off the limiting and let the whole
> >> thing breathe a bit.
>
> >> d
>
> > So apart from that ......................
>
> OK. But what is going to set you apart from a million other bands that
> make that identical sound? This has all been done to death, and you need
> to think up your own thing. What it boils down to is a simple question -
> why would I want to buy this record? Show me that, and I'll say you've
> done the job.
>
> d

Good points . But i record for fun with friends . Im not really in it
to make bread , i know my music has a limited if non existant market .
Coming from 70s blues rock roots im way outa date , but i still like
to put things together . I appreciate your comments and thank you for
been honest and constructive .

www.guitarblast.com
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 Don Pearce
 2008-07-17 20:27:08
 Re: New tune . Your opinions please .
 Bluesplayer wrote:
> On 17 Jul, 19:45, Don Pearce <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Bluesplayer wrote:
>>> On 17 Jul, 15:24, Don Pearce <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Neil Rutman wrote:
>>>>> I would have been happy to listen and to comment as many have done for me
>>>>> but I don't like to download unknown files. If it were available as a stream
>>>>> I would have listened.
>>>> Didn't see the original post, but I have listened and here are some
>>>> comments.
>>>> 1. The spoken bit at the beginning is redundant, given that the lyrics
>>>> in the rest of the song are indecipherable. Fascinating as a history
>>>> lesson about the Huns may be - lose it or you've lost your audience.
>>>> 2. The drumming is leaden and tedious.
>>>> 3. The guitar part is too relentless. Much better to punctuate with
>>>> occasional riffs than just have them noodling all the way through.
>>>> 4. It needs some dynamics - back off the limiting and let the whole
>>>> thing breathe a bit.
>>>> d
>>> So apart from that ......................
>> OK. But what is going to set you apart from a million other bands that
>> make that identical sound? This has all been done to death, and you need
>> to think up your own thing. What it boils down to is a simple question -
>> why would I want to buy this record? Show me that, and I'll say you've
>> done the job.
>>
>> d
>
> Good points . But i record for fun with friends . Im not really in it
> to make bread , i know my music has a limited if non existant market .
> Coming from 70s blues rock roots im way outa date , but i still like
> to put things together . I appreciate your comments and thank you for
> been honest and constructive .
>
> www.guitarblast.com

Ah! That makes a world of difference. I was answering an entirely
different question. OK I'll start again. It sounded good, the balance
was almost there but the vocal needs pulling slightly further forwards.
Separate out the drum track and see if you can beef it up with some
compression on the bass and floor toms and a bit of eq to give it snap.
What I said about the guitar still stands - it is doing its thing
through far too much of the tune, just let it stay in the background
until it really has something to say, then let rip.

d
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 John Williamson
 2008-07-17 20:50:56
 Re: New tune . Your opinions please .
Don Pearce wrote:

> Ah! That makes a world of difference. I was answering an entirely
> different question. OK I'll start again. It sounded good, the balance
> was almost there but the vocal needs pulling slightly further forwards.
> Separate out the drum track and see if you can beef it up with some
> compression on the bass and floor toms and a bit of eq to give it snap.
> What I said about the guitar still stands - it is doing its thing
> through far too much of the tune, just let it stay in the background
> until it really has something to say, then let rip.
>
I agree with you. Picking holes in the quality, though, there is
something unpleasant going on with the voice at high levels. Sort of a
high frequency tizz. It may just be a compression artifact, though.

I'd definitely lose the intro as a standalone track, though. I was half
expecting Paul Hardcastle to appear.

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Tciao for Now!

John.