Re: Ribbon for classical guitar

Professional audio recording and studio engineering, post #46,674
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 Ty Ford
 2008-07-20 13:05:33
 Re: Ribbon for classical guitar
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:48:39 -0400, H. Khalil wrote
(in article
<[email protected]>):

> Hi,
>
> I am recording classical guitar using a Schoeps CMC641 through the
> Metric Halo ULN2 and am pleased with the result, except that I
> sometimes would have liked the sound to be a tad softer and warmer. I
> remember to have read that a ribbon mic might be the way to go, and
> now I would like to try one.
>
> Which particular ribbon mic(s) would you recommend for classical
> guitar? Considering Beyerdynamic in particular, which of the three
> models M130, M160 and M260 would be more suitable for the instrument?
>
> Thanks!

Dear H,

Everyone seems to have jumped to your aid, but first lets examine what you're
asking for. That Schoeps is about as neutral as it gets. Ribbon mics are NOT
neutral.

As mentioned in this string, some ribbons may even be brighter. I'm not
convinced that a different mic would get you to where you think you want to
be.

Perhaps you could post a sample of what you don't like.

1. What preamp are you using. The mating of mic and preamp make a
considerable difference.

2. What strings are you using and would others get the sound you want?

3. What does the guitar sound like? If it's making a sound you don't like,
the use of mics is of limited help if you're looking to tone down the sound.
You'll get there but it'll sound muddy.

4. Maybe you're overplaying the guitar, causing it to sound too harsh; or too
much nail, not enough tip.

Regards,

Ty Ford




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 H. Khalil
 2008-07-20 11:31:13
 Re: Ribbon for classical guitar
On 20 Jul., 19:05, Ty Ford <[email protected]> wrote:

> Everyone seems to have jumped to your aid, but first lets examine what you're
> asking for. That Schoeps is about as neutral as it gets. Ribbon mics are NOT
> neutral.

Dear Ty, thanks for taking the trouble to answer in such detail.

First, rest assured everything concerning guitar technique, nails,
strings etc is ok. Also, I know my present mic and preamps (ULN2) are
ok. But that's not the issue. As I mentioned, my preferred guitar has
a slight, intrinsic harshness to its sound which I hoped - based on my
limited knowledge of recording gear - could be smoothen out with a
ribbon mic. I would be happy with such mic even if it's not perfectly
neutral, provided it's not bright.

Based on this thread I decided to get the M160, and if not pleased
send it back.

Thanks everybody here for your help, I really appreciate it.
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 hank alrich
 2008-07-20 22:07:12
 Re: Ribbon for classical guitar
H. Khalil <[email protected]> wrote:

> Based on this thread I decided to get the M160, and if not pleased
> send it back.

Please share your impressions with us.

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