Re: Stop exaggerating

On Jul 18, 8:22 pm, "Gareth Magennis" <[email protected]>
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> > What about distinctiveness or doing a unique thing with your vocal?
> > For example Little Richards and Pat Boone's version of Tutti Fruity
> > couldn't be more different.  The production on Boone's version seems
> > to be centred on the bland sound of his voice.  He doesn't improvise
> > or employ different techniques in the same way Little Richard does.
> > On the other hand no vocal coach will approve of the way in which he
> > sings Tutti Fruity.  He uses creaks, rumbles and vocal fry.  But his
> > version is far supperior.
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> > A more recent example is the original Where The Streets Have No Name
> > compaired to the Pet Shop Boys dire version.  Niel Tennent and Chris
> > Lowe maybe good at what they do, but Niel has a drab voice.  Bono
> > meanwhile, sighs, moans, screams and he allows his voice to crack.  I
> > know which version I prefer. Many rock bands record live, U2 did on
> > the Joshua Tree, and they only added certain instrunmental parts to
> > it.  This is why on the early copies of the album there were mistakes
> > on the end of Exit and on With Or Without You there are some mistakes
> > on the vocal.  This does not mena that it is a rubbish vocal, still
> > pretty good for one take. You have to be stupid to say that it's not
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> > great vocal.  Besides most listeners won't even notice.
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> > And I don't like patronising comments such as "for all it's flaws
> > it's
> > full of emotion". STOP PATRONISING!!!!!!!!
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> > Do you think that during Elvis Las Vagas years he always sang in
> > tune?  What about Fitzgerald?  She came from a poor African American
> > family before Martin Luthor King.  She admitted that she knew nothing
> > about chords she just sang.  Would you bet your life that she was
> > always in tune?  Still a fantastic singer.  REM's Michael Stipe
> > always
> > sings slightly off the beat. Lilly Allen and Liam Gallagher also have
> > a uniqueness to their vocal. Do you think if they put Let It Be, Ruby
> > Tuesday or Bridge Under Troubled Water through autotune that it will
> > come through unaltered?
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> No, I'm sorry, did you see the TV broadcast of Lilly Allen at Glastonbury?
> She cannot sing any more than I can.  Which is worse than next door's cat.
> I was acutely embarrassed.   I quite like her songs and spirit, actually,
> but the vocal  is obviously skillfully created by someone else in the
> studio.
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> Liam, to his credit, can recreate what he does on record live. Love him or
> loathe him, he is not a fake.
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How about Sinatra, Pavarotti, Chaka Khan and Frankin's singing? I was
told that they slurred their pitch, this is why I found it interesting
that these are supposed to be fantastic singers.

How about Striesand's version of See The Day compaired to Girls Aloud
version?

-And how comes someone has put a version of Bleeding Love autotuned on
YouTube? I do believe that shows like Pop Idol have a very narrow
idea of singing although she has a brillinat voice.
That could mean anything, sharp bends like Stevie,
bending up into the note, intentionally flat notes
like in some types or Reggae, bluesy notes,
microtonal singing like in Indian music, varying
degrees of vibrato, someone not hitting the note
then correcting themselves, or someone just
being out of tune.

When you talk about Indian music, isn't it true that some countries
use different scales? Peter Gabriel used to sing music with African
influences and he's a great singer. I still think that when you are
writing a song it is up to you what notes to use. U2 for example
improvise with guitars so they used many of the chords that guitarists
traditionally go to (like E, D and G). However I read somewhere that
these are not great keys for Bono to sing in, he's much better in B
flat. That's why he's often singing a little lower or higher. But I
think it's rather selfish for his band to play a song in a key which
your singer finds it difficult to sing in.