Who doesn't like Pro Tools LE and why?

Hi;

I tried ProTools back when I was sort of figuring out this whole home studio
thing. I tried PT M-Powered V7, Cubase SX3 and Adobe Audition 1.5. I liked
Adobe Audition's interface and ease of use but it started showing it's
limits as I got deeper into tracking and mixing. It's possible Audition got
better in the later versions. I went with Cubase SX3 because I found the
interface similar to Audition. ProTools I didn't like right off the bat
because it seemed not so user friendly when I installed it. I usually play
with software to learn it rather than being an "R.T.F.M." guy. The other
thing was Protools will only work with Digidesign hardware or M-Audio
hardware. I didn't have enough money for Digi hardware and wasn't a big fan
of M-Audio hardware which limited my choices to Cubase or Adobe (I use a
Tascam interface now)..

Hope this helps.
Steve

"Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:inE0k.1177$Dm5.936@bignews9.bellsouth.net...
>I am thinking of getting pro tools LE and a dedicated computer for running
>it. I would like to hear pros and cons for home studio use. Lets hear it!
>
> Robert
>

On Jun 1, 2:21 pm, "Robert" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am thinking of getting pro tools LE and a dedicated computer for running
> it. I would like to hear pros and cons for home studio use. Lets hear it!
>
> Robert

Unless the cost difference is not a concern to you or you can charge
back the investment to clients, there isn't really a big reason not to
use ProTools LE. It's a fine application (if you're dedicated to
ProTools). Personally, If you're not already committed to the
Digidesign hardware, I'd look at another DAW that is more flexible in
terms of what hardware you can use with it. Basically, with ProTools,
the Digidesign hardware is a big dongle. That being said, ProTools LE
is a perfectly fine application and its files will transfer over to a
ProTools HD system if you ever need to transfer your file to a studio
equipped with one. Also, you can use almost any other audio
application with the Digidesign hardware through core audio on a Mac.

On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 16:21:33 -0500, "Robert" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I am thinking of getting pro tools LE and a dedicated computer for running
>it. I would like to hear pros and cons for home studio use. Lets hear it!
>

If you were considering a full ProTools setup I can (just about) see
reasons why. But LE? Why tie yourself to a restricted choice of
hardware?

If you already have a Mac buy Logic 8 instead, it so superior to PT LE that
it's ridiculous and have no hardware restrictions.
I have met quite a few people who have bought PT LE (they seem to be for
sale very cheaply quite often) and after a little while have abandonned it
again because it simply didn't meet their demands.
One reason to buy PT LE though is if you need to open PT files. Digidesign
have very cleverly made their formats incompatible with most of the
competition (you can buy an OMF add-on, I know) so if you regularly switch
platforms it may force you to get PT LE, otherwise well.....I wouldn't.

On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 04:22:49 -0400, HKC wrote
(in article <4843ad9a$0$56792$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk>):

> If you already have a Mac buy Logic 8 instead, it so superior to PT LE that
> it's ridiculous and have no hardware restrictions.

Does Logic 8 run on a PC? No? Hmm, that must be a hardware restriction.

> I have met quite a few people who have bought PT LE (they seem to be for
> sale very cheaply quite often) and after a little while have abandonned it
> again because it simply didn't meet their demands.

Which demands.

> One reason to buy PT LE though is if you need to open PT files. Digidesign
> have very cleverly made their formats incompatible with most of the
> competition (you can buy an OMF add-on, I know) so if you regularly switch
> platforms it may force you to get PT LE, otherwise well.....I wouldn't.

Most operators who can't export wav files from PTLE are decidedly unclever. I
import and export with PTLE as needed with no problems.

If your going to cite reasons, make 'em good ones. I'm on record as not
liking the USB boxes; protools or anyone. But if you start at the Firewire
level, then things work a lot better.

Regards,

Ty Ford



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Ty Ford: Does Logic 8 run on a PC? No? Hmm, that must be a hardware
restriction

Even if it did run on PC it wouldn't really matter if the guy has a Mac,
come on....


Ty Ford: Which demands¨

All kinds, too little midi, to few FX, bad costumer service (slow updates
mostly) but in general it's not really that sophisticated a program I find
so there are many shortcomings but of course it depends on what you want to
use it for.


Ty Ford: Most operators who can't export wav files from PTLE are decidedly
unclever. I import and export with PTLE as needed with no problems.

I was actually referring to bring stuff to PT.
You have to bounce all the files and make them start at the same place, if
you have 48 tracks that takes a long time. I didn't say I didn't know how to
do it, I just said that it is a hazzle.


Ty Ford: If your going to cite reasons, make 'em good ones.

I think it's a good one.......


You can disagree as much as you want but all my points would be
considerations for me. You may make sense to some but in this case you don't
to me. I guess we must use DAWs very differently.

On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 15:58:40 -0400, HKC wrote
(in article <484450ae$0$56789$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk>):

> You can disagree as much as you want but all my points would be
> considerations for me. You may make sense to some but in this case you don't
> to me. I guess we must use DAWs very differently.

Actually it amazes me is that people DO use them so differently. +1

Regards,

Ty Ford



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Ty Ford <[email protected]> wrote:

> But if you start at the Firewire
> level, then things work a lot better.

Firewire gives you that warmth right there in the interconnect. Heh,
what's in a protocol not to like?

--
ha
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Robert <[email protected]> wrote:

> I am thinking of getting pro tools LE and a dedicated computer for running
> it. I would like to hear pros and cons for home studio use. Lets hear it!

I asked a similar question on this group a while ago. The only valid
reason for using it seems to be "Because everyone else uses it".

I personally hate it and will only use it if there is no alternative.
Even then, I only edit the section in ProTools that I need to, then drop
it into the rest of the recording. For the sort of objective mono or
stereo cut-and-paste editing that I do for my living, ProTools would be
a useless millstone.


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On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 11:23:45 +0100, [email protected]
(Adrian Tuddenham) wrote:

>I personally hate it and will only use it if there is no alternative.
>Even then, I only edit the section in ProTools that I need to, then drop
>it into the rest of the recording. For the sort of objective mono or
>stereo cut-and-paste editing that I do for my living, ProTools would be
>a useless millstone.

Fine - if you don't need a multi-track production program it's silly
to use one.

But for the same reasons do you hate Cubase, Sonar etc.?

Laurence Payne <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 11:23:45 +0100, [email protected]
> (Adrian Tuddenham) wrote:
>
> >I personally hate it and will only use it if there is no alternative.
> >Even then, I only edit the section in ProTools that I need to, then drop
> >it into the rest of the recording. For the sort of objective mono or
> >stereo cut-and-paste editing that I do for my living, ProTools would be
> >a useless millstone.
>
> Fine - if you don't need a multi-track production program it's silly
> to use one.
>
> But for the same reasons do you hate Cubase, Sonar etc.?

I haven't tried using them.

For me the biggest problem with ProTools is the learning curve that
comes with bloated software - and the completely counter-intuitive
interface. Additional niggles include the inability to leave marker
points embedded in the wavform and the need to use a mouse to perform
frequently-needed tool changes where a keyboard shortcut or modifier key
would be more appropriate. (If you are going to tell me that there is a
keyboard shortcut which I have never found, that says a lot about the
useless instructions, which are another gripe.)

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