Camry's PCV valve

Technical aspects of automobiles, et. al., post #21,425
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 Built_Well
 2008-07-12 20:09:15
 Camry's PCV valve
There's no mention in the Camry's owner's manual or
scheduled maintenance guide about PCV valve replacement.

Wikipedia says, "Typical maintenance schedules for gasoline
engines include PCV valve replacement whenever spark plugs
are replaced."

The '06 Camry Maintenance Guide mentions to replace spark
plugs at 120,000 miles or 12 years, and to inspect the
engine valve clearances at that time, but no mention at
all is made of the important PCV system that recirculates
blow-by fuel and water vapor from the crankcase to the
intake manifold en route to the combustion chamber
for re-burning.

By the way, iridium spark plugs lasting 12 years is great.
I remember my old Dodge Colt needed new plugs every couple
years or so. I guess that's one of the advantages of having
iridium and also having a Direct Ignition or Distributor-less
Ignition system. I'm getting into this car talk.

Not sure I'll be able to resist changing the spark plugs
for 12 whole years, though. Maybe 8 or 10.
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 Jeff Strickland
 2008-07-12 20:22:58
 Re: Camry's PCV valve
Is it possible that the PCV is not a V at all, but a simple orifice?

Back in the olden days, the PCV held a ball on the inside and a calibrated
spring. These days, the PCV is just an orifice and does not have a
maintenance schedule.





"Built_Well" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> There's no mention in the Camry's owner's manual or
> scheduled maintenance guide about PCV valve replacement.
>
> Wikipedia says, "Typical maintenance schedules for gasoline
> engines include PCV valve replacement whenever spark plugs
> are replaced."
>
> The '06 Camry Maintenance Guide mentions to replace spark
> plugs at 120,000 miles or 12 years, and to inspect the
> engine valve clearances at that time, but no mention at
> all is made of the important PCV system that recirculates
> blow-by fuel and water vapor from the crankcase to the
> intake manifold en route to the combustion chamber
> for re-burning.
>
> By the way, iridium spark plugs lasting 12 years is great.
> I remember my old Dodge Colt needed new plugs every couple
> years or so. I guess that's one of the advantages of having
> iridium and also having a Direct Ignition or Distributor-less
> Ignition system. I'm getting into this car talk.
>
> Not sure I'll be able to resist changing the spark plugs
> for 12 whole years, though. Maybe 8 or 10.
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 Ray O
 2008-07-12 22:39:50
 Re: Camry's PCV valve
"Jeff Strickland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Is it possible that the PCV is not a V at all, but a simple orifice?
>
> Back in the olden days, the PCV held a ball on the inside and a calibrated
> spring. These days, the PCV is just an orifice and does not have a
> maintenance schedule.
>

PCV = positive crankcase ventilation so there is a "V" in a PCV system.

Yes, it is possible that there is no valve in the positive crankcase
ventilation system, not sure if the 2006 Camry has a valve or not.

There are two easy ways to check - follow the crankcase ventilation tube
from the throttle body to the engine and look for a PCV valve, or look in
the factory service manual.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)
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 Built_Well
 2008-07-12 21:48:32
 Re: Camry's PCV valve
Ray O wrote:
> "Jeff Strickland" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> > Is it possible that the PCV is not a V at all, but a simple orifice?
> >
> > Back in the olden days, the PCV held a ball on the inside and a calibrated
> > spring. These days, the PCV is just an orifice and does not have a
> > maintenance schedule.
> > ================
>
> PCV = positive crankcase ventilation so there is a "V" in a PCV system.
>
> Yes, it is possible that there is no valve in the positive crankcase
> ventilation system, not sure if the 2006 Camry has a valve or not.
>
> There are two easy ways to check - follow the crankcase ventilation tube
> from the throttle body to the engine and look for a PCV valve, or look in
> the factory service manual.
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
> ===========================

Jeff, you're a very smart man who knows a lot about cars, but it
looks to me like the '06 Camry's PCV valve does have a moving part
inside (a valve), so it's not just an orifice in this model :-)

Judging from a diagram in the Emissions section of the Camry
service and repair manual I downloaded from CamryStuff.com , the
moving part looks more like a cone than a ball. But I know
there are both types. The diagram is on Page 1,500.

For other beginners like myself, since the PCV valve is not
the empty type, it's possible it may wear out over enough
time, and it might be a good idea to change it with the
spark plugs every 12 years, or 8 to 10 years if you
wanna jump the gun a little bit like me.
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 Built_Well
 2008-07-12 21:54:10
 Re: Camry's PCV valve
I just saw John's posting. I'm sure following his suggestion
would be a very good idea, too.
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 johngdole@hotmail.com
 2008-07-12 22:06:15
 Re: Camry's PCV valve
Older Toyota did use oirfice valves, but I don't think any late model
car does.

These things like to gum up over time, and spray cleaning has been
recommended against. There are cars without a replacement schedule and
the valves check out according to instructions (clamp hose, listen for
a click; shake valve, listen for clicks; blow in both directions etc
etc) but still do not work.

The fact is, a PCV valve and grommet are cheaper than an oil change.
I'm just saying do not wait until the seals leak because of an over
pressured crankcase (even if the vent hose is supposed to be open to
the atmosphere it still happens).




On Jul 12, 9:48 pm, Built_Well <[email protected]> wrote:
> Jeff, you're a very smart man who knows a lot about cars, but it
> looks to me like the '06 Camry's PCV valve does have a moving part
> inside (a valve), so it's not just an orifice in this model :-)
>
> Judging from a diagram in the Emissions section of the Camry
> service and repair manual I downloaded from CamryStuff.com , the
> moving part looks more like a cone than a ball.  But I know
> there are both types.  The diagram is on Page 1,500.
>
> For other beginners like myself, since the PCV valve is not
> the empty type, it's possible it may wear out over enough
> time, and it might be a good idea to change it with the
> spark plugs every 12 years, or 8 to 10 years if you
> wanna jump the gun a little bit like me.
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 Jeff Strickland
 2008-07-14 20:07:17
 Re: Camry's PCV valve
"Built_Well" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Ray O wrote:
>> "Jeff Strickland" <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>> > Is it possible that the PCV is not a V at all, but a simple orifice?
>> >
>> > Back in the olden days, the PCV held a ball on the inside and a
>> > calibrated
>> > spring. These days, the PCV is just an orifice and does not have a
>> > maintenance schedule.
>> > ================
>>
>> PCV = positive crankcase ventilation so there is a "V" in a PCV system.
>>
>> Yes, it is possible that there is no valve in the positive crankcase
>> ventilation system, not sure if the 2006 Camry has a valve or not.
>>
>> There are two easy ways to check - follow the crankcase ventilation tube
>> from the throttle body to the engine and look for a PCV valve, or look in
>> the factory service manual.
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>> ===========================
>
> Jeff, you're a very smart man who knows a lot about cars, but it
> looks to me like the '06 Camry's PCV valve does have a moving part
> inside (a valve), so it's not just an orifice in this model :-)
>

I've never seen one, I only broached the possibility. I was searching for a
reason why they would not present a replacement interval in the Owner's
Manual, and if it is just an orifice, that might explain the omission.
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 E Meyer
 2008-07-15 23:58:50
 Re: Camry's PCV valve
On 7/14/08 10:07 PM, in article g5h497$vku$1@registered.motzarella.org,
"Jeff Strickland" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> "Built_Well" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:39c6f16b-bf30-437e-8213-1578e02cbd77@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
>> Ray O wrote:
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <[email protected]> wrote
>>>
>>>> Is it possible that the PCV is not a V at all, but a simple orifice?
>>>>
>>>> Back in the olden days, the PCV held a ball on the inside and a
>>>> calibrated
>>>> spring. These days, the PCV is just an orifice and does not have a
>>>> maintenance schedule.
>>>> ================
>>>
>>> PCV = positive crankcase ventilation so there is a "V" in a PCV system.
>>>
>>> Yes, it is possible that there is no valve in the positive crankcase
>>> ventilation system, not sure if the 2006 Camry has a valve or not.
>>>
>>> There are two easy ways to check - follow the crankcase ventilation tube
>>> from the throttle body to the engine and look for a PCV valve, or look in
>>> the factory service manual.
>>> --
>>>
>>> Ray O
>>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>> ===========================
>>
>> Jeff, you're a very smart man who knows a lot about cars, but it
>> looks to me like the '06 Camry's PCV valve does have a moving part
>> inside (a valve), so it's not just an orifice in this model :-)
>>
>
> I've never seen one, I only broached the possibility. I was searching for a
> reason why they would not present a replacement interval in the Owner's
> Manual, and if it is just an orifice, that might explain the omission.
>
>
The Japanese don't seem to be all that concerned about them. I haven't seen
a replacement interval specified for PCV valves on Hondas or Nissans since
at least '96. Many of them are all but inaccessible as well.