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Author: Date: Subject:
Built_Well
2008-07-08 04:52:26
No vroom vroom with the Camry
Very odd. Yesterday as I was slowly coasting on level ground
into a gas station, I was going too slowly, so I decided to
press down on the accelerator pedal a bit. The car's RPMs
increased (I heard the RPM rev up), but the car did not move
forward any faster than my coast! LOL.
So after one second of this, I removed my foot from the accelerator
pedal, and tried again. The second time was the charm. The 2006
Camry LE 4-cylinder moved like it's suppose to. There's only
15,000 miles on this 2-year-old car. What gives?
As mentioned, I gave the car some gas, but the increased REVs I
heard were not translated into forward motion. I expected a
bit more from Toyota. Very odd. I hope I don't experience more
of this in the future. I had just started driving the car from
a cold start-up about 12 minutes earlier. The temperature was
about 76*F outside, and the coolant had reached operating
temperature, although I'm sure the oil hadn't yet.
Author: Date: Subject:
HLS
2008-07-08 07:28:14
Re: No vroom vroom with the Camry
The later model Camrys were fitted with a new design six speed tranny.
There
were lots of complaints about this transmission when it first came out, and
I
suspect that this is what you are sensing.
We bought an Avalon, simply because it still was fitted with the older five
speed
unit which did not have this unsettling shift characteristic.
A sharp mechanic, dealership or independent, can probably counsel you on
this.
Author: Date: Subject:
C. E. White
2008-07-08 12:15:50
Re: No vroom vroom with the Camry
"HLS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> The later model Camrys were fitted with a new design six speed
> tranny. There
> were lots of complaints about this transmission when it first came
> out, and I
> suspect that this is what you are sensing.
Since this was a 2006 with a 4 cylinder, the car does not have the 6
speed transmission.....
I have seen cases where electronically controlled transmission from
all manufacturers, not just Toyota, can "get confused" and shift into
neutral instead of downshifting. If it was my car, I'd experiment and
see if I could recreate the condition reliably. If I could, I'd take
the car to the Toyota dealer and demonstrate it for the service
writer. If I could not recreate the problem (even occasionally), then
I would forget it ever happened :) In either case, I'd check the ATF
fluid level, and if it is low, I'd be sure to use the correct Toyota
ATF (purchased from the dealer, not an auto parts store).
Ed
Author: Date: Subject:
HLS
2008-07-08 11:39:57
Re: No vroom vroom with the Camry
"C. E. White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "HLS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:F6Jck.22706$co7.14968@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com...
>> The later model Camrys were fitted with a new design six speed tranny.
>> There
>> were lots of complaints about this transmission when it first came out,
>> and I
>> suspect that this is what you are sensing.
>
> Since this was a 2006 with a 4 cylinder, the car does not have the 6 speed
> transmission.....
I thought it did. Sorry. When did the 6 speed go into production?
Author: Date: Subject:
C. E. White
2008-07-08 13:46:24
Re: No vroom vroom with the Camry
"HLS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "C. E. White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:487392e3$1@kcnews01...
>>
>> "HLS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:F6Jck.22706$co7.14968@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>> The later model Camrys were fitted with a new design six speed
>>> tranny. There
>>> were lots of complaints about this transmission when it first came
>>> out, and I
>>> suspect that this is what you are sensing.
>>
>> Since this was a 2006 with a 4 cylinder, the car does not have the
>> 6 speed transmission.....
>
> I thought it did. Sorry. When did the 6 speed go into production?
They introduced the 6 speed in 2007, but only for the V6. The 4
cylinder still gets the 5 speed (even in 2009). The fly by wire
complaints go back a little further....
Ed
Author: Date: Subject:
Gary L. Burnore
2008-07-08 14:03:39
Re: No vroom vroom with the Camry
On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 12:15:50 -0400, "C. E. White"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"HLS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:F6Jck.22706$co7.14968@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com...
>> The later model Camrys were fitted with a new design six speed
>> tranny. There
>> were lots of complaints about this transmission when it first came
>> out, and I
>> suspect that this is what you are sensing.
>
>Since this was a 2006 with a 4 cylinder, the car does not have the 6
>speed transmission.....
>
>I have seen cases where electronically controlled transmission from
>all manufacturers, not just Toyota, can "get confused" and shift into
>neutral instead of downshifting.
Toyota's 4speed will still work without ANY ETC. It won't have od but
it'll work.
>If it was my car, I'd experiment and
>see if I could recreate the condition reliably.
By the time he does that it could be too late for the transmission.
He should get it checked ___ BEFORE ___ it gets worse.
--
gburnore at DataBasix dot Com
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Author: Date: Subject:
Gary L. Burnore
2008-07-08 14:04:45
Re: No vroom vroom with the Camry
On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:03:39 -0400, Gary L. Burnore
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 12:15:50 -0400, "C. E. White"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"HLS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:F6Jck.22706$co7.14968@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>> The later model Camrys were fitted with a new design six speed
>>> tranny. There
>>> were lots of complaints about this transmission when it first came
>>> out, and I
>>> suspect that this is what you are sensing.
>>
>>Since this was a 2006 with a 4 cylinder, the car does not have the 6
>>speed transmission.....
>>
>>I have seen cases where electronically controlled transmission from
>>all manufacturers, not just Toyota, can "get confused" and shift into
>>neutral instead of downshifting.
>
>Toyota's 4speed will still work without ANY ETC. It won't have od but
>it'll work.
s/4/5
oops
>
>>If it was my car, I'd experiment and
>>see if I could recreate the condition reliably.
>
>By the time he does that it could be too late for the transmission.
>
>He should get it checked ___ BEFORE ___ it gets worse.
--
gburnore at DataBasix dot Com
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Author: Date: Subject:
C. E. White
2008-07-08 15:06:37
Re: No vroom vroom with the Camry
"Gary L. Burnore" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 12:15:50 -0400, "C. E. White"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"HLS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:F6Jck.22706$co7.14968@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>> The later model Camrys were fitted with a new design six speed
>>> tranny. There
>>> were lots of complaints about this transmission when it first came
>>> out, and I
>>> suspect that this is what you are sensing.
>>
>>Since this was a 2006 with a 4 cylinder, the car does not have the 6
>>speed transmission.....
>>
>>I have seen cases where electronically controlled transmission from
>>all manufacturers, not just Toyota, can "get confused" and shift
>>into
>>neutral instead of downshifting.
>
> Toyota's 4speed will still work without ANY ETC. It won't have od
> but
> it'll work.
>
>>If it was my car, I'd experiment and
>>see if I could recreate the condition reliably.
>
> By the time he does that it could be too late for the transmission.
>
> He should get it checked ___ BEFORE ___ it gets worse.
Well my first check would be the ATF. If the level is correct and the
color is OK and the transmission was not acting up, I wouldn't take it
to the dealer. Chances are if you can't demonstrate the problem, they
won't find it. I suppose you could have them read the codes (assuming
there are any), but you could do it for free at AutoZone (or similar
stores that read the codes for free). If there are no codes and you
cannot demonstrate the problem, what do you expect the dealer to do? I
know - charge you $75 for saying everything is OK - been there, done
that.
Ed
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