Re: Some details of the 2AZ-FE engine

Technical aspects of automobiles, et. al., post #21,509
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 Steve W.
 2008-07-15 01:26:03
 Re: Some details of the 2AZ-FE engine
Built_Well wrote:
> Ray O wrote:
>> Some older Toyota engines (and current domestic engines) have
>> a single overhead cam, or SOHC.
> ========
>
> Single overhead cam (SOHC)!!!! Well, I guess that's better
> than using pushrods and rollers.

WHY?
Push rod engines have been around a LONG time. Toyota even agrees as
they built more than a few. (take a look under the Tundra V8s hood)

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Steve W.
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 Ray O
 2008-07-15 00:54:37
 Re: Some details of the 2AZ-FE engine
"Steve W." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Built_Well wrote:
>> Ray O wrote:
>>> Some older Toyota engines (and current domestic engines) have
>>> a single overhead cam, or SOHC.
>> ========
>>
>> Single overhead cam (SOHC)!!!! Well, I guess that's better
>> than using pushrods and rollers.
>
> WHY?
> Push rod engines have been around a LONG time. Toyota even agrees as they
> built more than a few. (take a look under the Tundra V8s hood)
>
> --
> Steve W.


The production Tundra's 4.7 and 5.7 liter V8's are both DOHC designs. The
NASCAR Craftsman Series "Tundras" use pushrod engines ;-)

AFAIK, Toyota does not sell any pushrod engines in North America any more.

People have probably spent millions of hours debating the benefits of
pushrods vs OHC engines, and IMHO, each style has benefits over the other in
certain applications.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)
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 N8N
 2008-07-15 06:18:13
 Re: Some details of the 2AZ-FE engine
On Jul 15, 1:54 am, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
> "Steve W." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:g5hcd3$lmc$1@aioe.org...
>
> > Built_Well wrote:
> >> Ray O wrote:
> >>> Some older Toyota engines (and current domestic engines) have
> >>> a single overhead cam, or SOHC.
> >> ========
>
> >> Single overhead cam (SOHC)!!!!  Well, I guess that's better
> >> than using pushrods and rollers.
>
> > WHY?
> > Push rod engines have been around a LONG time. Toyota even agrees as they
> > built more than a few. (take a look under the Tundra V8s hood)
>
> > --
> > Steve W.
>
> The production Tundra's 4.7 and 5.7 liter V8's are both DOHC designs.  The
> NASCAR Craftsman Series "Tundras" use pushrod engines ;-)
>
> AFAIK, Toyota does not sell any pushrod engines in North America any more.
>
> People have probably spent millions of hours debating the benefits of
> pushrods vs OHC engines, and IMHO, each style has benefits over the other in
> certain applications.

The main advantage to a pushrod engine is packaging. I believe that
was one of the reasons given for GM for sticking with a pushrod design
for their newest small-block V-8s; they needed them to fit under the
low hoodline of a Corvette.

nate
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 Built_Well
 2008-07-15 06:35:18
 Re: Some details of the 2AZ-FE engine
N8N, sometime you ought to read Joey's long political rantings
on alt.autos.TOYOTA . It seems all Joey does all day
is post politics in a Toyota newsgroup and attack Jeff.
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 JoeSpareBedroom
 2008-07-15 07:00:21
 Re: Some details of the 2AZ-FE engine
"Built_Well" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Gonna write this stuff down and post it so I don't lose it.


Of course, you could've just written it down in a text document and saved it
rather than posted it, assuming the actual purpose was to not lose it.
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 Built_Well
 2008-07-15 05:53:04
 Re: Some details of the 2AZ-FE engine
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> Built_Well wrote
>
> >
> > Gonna write this stuff down and post it so I don't lose it.
> > =============
>
> Of course, you could've just written it down in a text document and saved it
> rather than posted it, assuming the actual purpose was to not lose it.
=================

Joey, you should take a hint from Jeff Strickland. He's
much more polite and together than you.
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 JoeSpareBedroom
 2008-07-15 09:53:28
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"Built_Well" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> Built_Well wrote
>>
>> >
>> > Gonna write this stuff down and post it so I don't lose it.
>> > =============
>>
>> Of course, you could've just written it down in a text document and saved
>> it
>> rather than posted it, assuming the actual purpose was to not lose it.
> =================
>
> Joey, you should take a hint from Jeff Strickland. He's
> much more polite and together than you.


Clarity of purpose is a good thing. Try it sometime.
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 disston
 2008-07-15 08:04:30
 Re: Some details of the 2AZ-FE engine
I think it was Buick. Had an Aluminium engine in something like '62.
V8, I think it was 300 ci. I did a brake job on one of those cars once
and really liked driving it. So when I gave it back to the girl that
owneed it I tried to explain that it was of utmost concern that this
car NEVER be over heated. Always check coolant and have a GOOD
radiatoer, fan belt, water pump, etc....One year later she was trying
to sell it to me because "We think it's only the head gasket". Right.
Aluminium warps really good.

disston
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 C. E. White
 2008-07-15 11:11:47
 Re: Some details of the 2AZ-FE engine
"disston" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I think it was Buick. Had an Aluminium engine in something like '62.
> V8, I think it was 300 ci. I did a brake job on one of those cars
> once
> and really liked driving it. So when I gave it back to the girl that
> owneed it I tried to explain that it was of utmost concern that this
> car NEVER be over heated. Always check coolant and have a GOOD
> radiatoer, fan belt, water pump, etc....One year later she was
> trying
> to sell it to me because "We think it's only the head gasket".
> Right.
> Aluminium warps really good.

The engine was 215 cubic inches and had cast iron liners. GM sold the
tooling to British Leyland and they continued to produce it for years.
I think Ford finally stopped producing it when they bought Land Rover
(but according to wikipedia, it is still in production at third
party). Oldsmobile sold a turbocharged version. It was sold in various
Buick, Oldsmobile, and Pontiac intermediate sized cars (included the
Tempest that used a transaxle with IRS).

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buick_V8_engine and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rover_V8_engine

Ed
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 EdV
 2008-07-15 09:48:56
 Re: Some details of the 2AZ-FE engine
The 2AZ-FE has a variant 2AZ-FXE for hybrid cars.

By the way, the supercharged 2AZ-FE's found on some of the Scion tC,
are there other modifications on the engine or just added the super
charger? Would you be able to fit a supercharger on a camry, rav4 or
highlander?
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 C. E. White
 2008-07-15 13:30:54
 Re: Some details of the 2AZ-FE engine
"EdV" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> The 2AZ-FE has a variant 2AZ-FXE for hybrid cars.
>
> By the way, the supercharged 2AZ-FE's found on some of the Scion
> tC,
> are there other modifications on the engine or just added the super
> charger? Would you be able to fit a supercharger on a camry, rav4 or
> highlander?

Not sure. I would think that you could given the proper kit.

See

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_AZ_engine#2AZ-FE
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showthread.php?t=201074
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/archive/topic/111394-1.html

Ed
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 johngdole@hotmail.com
 2008-07-15 20:57:09
 Re: Some details of the 2AZ-FE engine
Hee hee hee. 2AZFE "an advanced powerplant?" that's a good one.
Checkout the Audi FSI 2.0T for an advanced design with a flat torque
curve from 2000-5000 RPMs.



On Jul 14, 8:08 pm, Built_Well <[email protected]> wrote:
> Gonna write this stuff down and post it so I don't lose it.  Had
> to wade through a lot of pages to find it.  The 5th Generation Camry's
> 2AZ-FE engine (an advanced powerplant, by the way) is
> the same engine that was used in the '01 Highlander SUV.
> 5th Generation Camrys cover Model Years '02 - '06.