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Corey Richardson
2008-07-17 01:56:27
Medium/Rare Burger Dangers
Thinking about it, how many people *actually* die or get ill in the US
from eating underdone burgers?
Not that many, probably...
Can you actually specify at US BK's, McDonalds that you want your burger
rare?
In the UK, they (the FSA) *demand* that burgers are only served well
done.
Or is it that UK beef not to be trusted?
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Cheryl
2008-07-16 20:49:13
Re: Medium/Rare Burger Dangers
On Wed 16 Jul 2008 08:56:27p, Corey Richardson wrote in
rec.food.cooking
<news:[email protected]>:
> Thinking about it, how many people *actually* die or get ill in
> the US from eating underdone burgers?
>
> Not that many, probably...
>
> Can you actually specify at US BK's, McDonalds that you want
> your burger rare?
>
> In the UK, they (the FSA) *demand* that burgers are only served
> well done.
>
> Or is it that UK beef not to be trusted?
>
>
AFAIK you can't specify doneness of burgers in fast food places in
the US. I always specify med-rare in burger restaurants, though.
Rare is just too rare for burgers because they never get it right.
I do like steaks rare and just barely warm in the middle. Yum. I'm
getting hungry now though I had a nice lunch out and planned not to
eat dinner tonight. More fodder for any food snobs; it was Red
Lobster(tm) and grilled garlic shrimp and steamed snow crab legs
(cooked perfectly), nice baked potato and a salad. And a Heineken.
Wonderful company of my parents, whom I rarely have time to out to
eat with these days. :)) My dad is looking thin and mom says he
barely eats but he got the shrimp fettacini alfrado. Yes, my
spelling sucks. Mom got bacon-wrapped scallops and grilled
barbequed shrimp.
--
Cheryl
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Steve Pope
2008-07-17 02:50:15
Re: Medium/Rare Burger Dangers
Corey Richardson <[email protected]> wrote:
>Can you actually specify at US BK's, McDonalds that you want your burger
>rare?
Not sure; I don't eat at those places, but in slightly nicer
burger chains you can certainly order a rare burger.
>In the UK, they (the FSA) *demand* that burgers are only served well
>done.
I think the larger issue here is that Americans often tolerate
public health problems that would cause widespread alarm elsewhere
in the world. In the UK diseases like rabies and plague have
been eradicated; not so in the US.
When in London earlier this year, I noticed some taxis had
painted on their doors: "Warning; you may contract bubonic
plague by riding in this vehicle". This was of course intended
as a joke, a reference to the tourist value of the UK's
long ago history with plague. However in the US people still
catch bubonic plague, and there are frequently plague warning signs
up on hiking trails and in camping spots, so the idea of a fake,
joke plague warning I found a bit unsettling.
Steve
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Bob Terwilliger
2008-07-16 19:53:38
Re: Medium/Rare Burger Dangers
Steve wrote:
> I think the larger issue here is that Americans often tolerate
> public health problems that would cause widespread alarm elsewhere
> in the world. In the UK diseases like rabies and plague have
> been eradicated; not so in the US.
Not like those bastions of public health, Mexico and China.
Bob
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Shawn Hirn
2008-07-17 05:48:06
Re: Medium/Rare Burger Dangers
In article <[email protected]>,
"Bob Terwilliger" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Steve wrote:
>
> > I think the larger issue here is that Americans often tolerate
> > public health problems that would cause widespread alarm elsewhere
> > in the world. In the UK diseases like rabies and plague have
> > been eradicated; not so in the US.
>
> Not like those bastions of public health, Mexico and China.
The UK is no paragon either, what with their Mad Cow disease.
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Andy
2008-07-17 05:14:09
Re: Medium/Rare Burger Dangers
Shawn Hirn said...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Bob Terwilliger" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Steve wrote:
>>
>> > I think the larger issue here is that Americans often tolerate
>> > public health problems that would cause widespread alarm elsewhere
>> > in the world. In the UK diseases like rabies and plague have
>> > been eradicated; not so in the US.
>>
>> Not like those bastions of public health, Mexico and China.
>
> The UK is no paragon either, what with their Mad Cow disease.
Plague in the US?!? What plague?!? No epidemic here that I know of.
Andy
Eating bloody rare buffalo. No problems.
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Cindy Hamilton
2008-07-17 06:33:09
Re: Medium/Rare Burger Dangers
On Jul 17, 6:14 am, Andy <q> wrote:
> Plague in the US?!? What plague?!? No epidemic here that I know of.
Yersina pestis infections (usually contracted by contact with mouse
feces)
still occur, but with modern antibiotics we don't see epidemics of
it. IIRC
it's a problem mainly in the Southwest.
Cindy Hamilton
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Ms P
2008-07-17 09:12:30
Re: Medium/Rare Burger Dangers
"Cindy Hamilton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:9a09fb8c-3e38-4362-a8cc-356b8ce191d5@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 17, 6:14 am, Andy <q> wrote:
> Plague in the US?!? What plague?!? No epidemic here that I know of.
Yersina pestis infections (usually contracted by contact with mouse
feces)
still occur, but with modern antibiotics we don't see epidemics of
it. IIRC
it's a problem mainly in the Southwest.
Cindy Hamilton
I think you might be confusing two diseases. The one that's usually
contracted from mouse droppings and mostly in the southwest is hantavirus.
The plague in the US is mainly in prairie dogs. The plagues, bubonic,
pneumonic and septicemic are usually transmitted by fleas.
Ms P
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Cindy Hamilton
2008-07-17 13:13:40
Re: Medium/Rare Burger Dangers
On Jul 17, 10:12 am, "Ms P" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Cindy Hamilton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:9a09fb8c-3e38-4362-a8cc-356b8ce191d5@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 17, 6:14 am, Andy <q> wrote:
>
> > Plague in the US?!? What plague?!? No epidemic here that I know of.
>
> Yersina pestis infections (usually contracted by contact with mouse
> feces)
> still occur, but with modern antibiotics we don't see epidemics of
> it. IIRC
> it's a problem mainly in the Southwest.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
> I think you might be confusing two diseases. The one that's usually
> contracted from mouse droppings and mostly in the southwest is hantavirus.
> The plague in the US is mainly in prairie dogs. The plagues, bubonic,
> pneumonic and septicemic are usually transmitted by fleas.
>
> Ms P
You're absolutely right, and now that you've described it, the details
are
flooding back as if I'd read them yesterday instead of 10 years ago.
Cindy Hamilton
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Ms P
2008-07-17 16:35:42
Re: Medium/Rare Burger Dangers
"Cindy Hamilton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:35909d34-9f4f-490d-bc9f-b27f99fd587f@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 17, 10:12 am, "Ms P" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Cindy Hamilton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:9a09fb8c-3e38-4362-a8cc-356b8ce191d5@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 17, 6:14 am, Andy <q> wrote:
>
> > Plague in the US?!? What plague?!? No epidemic here that I know of.
>
> Yersina pestis infections (usually contracted by contact with mouse
> feces)
> still occur, but with modern antibiotics we don't see epidemics of
> it. IIRC
> it's a problem mainly in the Southwest.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
> I think you might be confusing two diseases. The one that's usually
> contracted from mouse droppings and mostly in the southwest is hantavirus.
> The plague in the US is mainly in prairie dogs. The plagues, bubonic,
> pneumonic and septicemic are usually transmitted by fleas.
>
> Ms P
You're absolutely right, and now that you've described it, the details
are
flooding back as if I'd read them yesterday instead of 10 years ago.
Cindy Hamilton
The main reason I know is I happen to be in place that has both at times. I
know there's been at least 1 woman die from hantavirus from the area,
possibly more and everyone is cautioned not to pick up dead prairie dogs if
they go shoot them.
Ms P
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